From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 31 15:28:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ussenterprise.ufp.org (ussenterprise.ufp.org [208.185.30.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F81037B429 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bicknell@localhost) by ussenterprise.ufp.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id fBVNS9K45361; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:28:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bicknell) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:28:09 -0500 From: Leo Bicknell To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Terry Lambert , Julian Elischer , Mike Silbersack , Josef Karthauser , Tomas Svensson , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux? Message-ID: <20011231232809.GA45295@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Dillon , Terry Lambert , Julian Elischer , Mike Silbersack , Josef Karthauser , Tomas Svensson , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200112311941.fBVJfvc25822@apollo.backplane.com> <3C30C5F9.BCC1BAE8@mindspring.com> <200112312017.fBVKHTs26004@apollo.backplane.com> <3C30E7B9.96EFA40F@mindspring.com> <200112312244.fBVMigK35786@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200112312244.fBVMigK35786@apollo.backplane.com> Organization: United Federation of Planets Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a message written on Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:44:42PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > * I never said the server was the problem. To the contrary, I've > been saying that the client is the problem.. USB ethernet is > broken, period. I think several people are trying to say the same thing off this point but not saying it the same way, so: * Hacking TCP (or pretty much anything else) is the _wrong_ solution to this problem. The solution is to "fix" USB ethernet and/or not use it. * Since this is a fairly well defined, easy to reproduce packet loss situation that TCP seems to not handle particularly well, it might be worth using it to investigate if there is a generic TCP improvment that could be made. Fair enough? -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message