From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 02:27:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C089416A400 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donald.teed@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782D813C47E for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donald.teed@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so608888ele.3 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:27:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QLzSv0YqhQbLKBmJ5Z3M6pGLHyj2DyPJnUJpErEhidU=; b=Msh4hE+ucYEHxE1kWSCb7qzw8XZLW5J4p9tuLvcmppkBM4+fDVGitHPpLW7/f0Cqe223/IyrkyV1J/29a01uvYBSOCdYwRdXbE9i9/VsxaFjpy1JZx5h8HwAGyrlKIl47y5+zAqDiW0q0gcYUACrgvMfobh2eOmWjCbxaNXmrnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Bf0IoQ9uanavXrMrwjQ2xP2SkTbMOnlW8Ph0qfxZdjkAL3knWEWnYeA4Hi+VlzB17KI6w+01X0Fi7eK51F7TIqdDcmQhNwDI9fO2xJwFHz8NbgNQZAFm9Fx2d7mOg5drbjkTaUUklEVXt8OZ2x1T/f38mbmlUme2MgUsfYwLQ9w= Received: by 10.143.187.2 with SMTP id o2mr620764wfp.239.1203733650906; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.226.21 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:27:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:27:30 -0400 From: "D G Teed" To: "Jonathan McKeown" In-Reply-To: <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:27:32 -0000 On 2/22/08, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in > EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution > that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by > getting rid of the servers, seems to me to be doing things the wrong way > round - irrespective of which OS you're forcing yourself to get rid of. Well, we are not going to ditch the Windows Servers, nor run 2 backup solutions, so FreeBSD must go. We do have the client that someone made for Legato 6.0 some time ago and we are using that. A bug report appeared that the default configure for the client was insecure. It wasn't fixed after a year and the FBSD resolution was to drop the client from FBSD packages. Legato didn't make that FBSD legato 6.0 client package. Someone clever from within the FreeBSD developers made it based on how the package for Linux worked. From the pattern that followed, it seems that developer or contributor didn't maintain it afterward. So from our perspective, FreeBSD dropped something we have relied on to make FreeBSD doable in our server room. I know, there are always people who will say: "you can't complain, you go fix it", but I'm sorry I'm not able to spend the time on it. After all, not everyone who flies is a pilot, and no one builds a plane only for pilots. I don't hate BSD - at home I run a sparcstation with NetBSD. --Donald