Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 09:28:44 -0500 From: Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> To: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: r343567 aka PAE vs non-PAE merge breaks i386 freebsd Message-ID: <CAPyFy2C31nCi_W3utw5voKQSv8B=9JjLNuceZURpvrCEcLn4Sw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55eb26fb977fe90e323a8721e39bfc0185d994ba.camel@freebsd.org> References: <20190222033924.GA25285@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20190222060410.GA25817@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20190223032644.GA14058@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAG6CVpW7y1qwxeU_gNWGmnKsgUkXKUTnmSwd3O2ByPdo_EO3uw@mail.gmail.com> <20190223163947.GB18805@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <f38f2329-900b-2ae2-02e6-e1b993f9250a@FreeBSD.org> <20190228183214.GA17372@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAG6CVpWasUzvHv56t8trK_6=wr-o_w4PnNDUir-Ye=kQXofoOQ@mail.gmail.com> <55eb26fb977fe90e323a8721e39bfc0185d994ba.camel@freebsd.org>
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 14:13, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> wrote: > > I have been of the opinion that armv[67] has met all the bullet points > to be a tier-1 arch for several years, but nobody seemed interested in > declaring it so. Now it'll never happen, because there seems to be > growing momentum to throw everything 32-bit under the bus and declare > freebsd to be a 64-bit-only OS. Netflix wins; those of us building > smaller embedded products will eventually be forced to move to linux. I don't think this is the case. For one example, see the effort kib@ has been putting in (under Foundation sponsorship) on FreeBSD/i386. One of my co-op students this term is working on building out our hardware continuous integration testbed, including 32-bit Arm targets like the BeagleBone Black. Now, i386 has not been our primary reference platform for some time, and I expect that for 32-bit ports FreeBSD will largely be cross-built from amd64, arm64, or powerpc64 hosts. I think this is absolutely fine, and we can still support 32-bit devices well, but our current tier definitions don't fit this model well.
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