From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 17 03:09:21 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144E516A4E3 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3A543D54 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from misnagid@usa.net) Received: from cmsout03.mbox.net (cmsout03.mbox.net [165.212.64.33]) by cmsout03.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2BF8B; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.130] by cmsout03.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.21U); Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:19 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.130 IN misnagid@usa.net uadvg130.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID825JaqDJT5543X03 Received: from 192.168.1.100 [68.41.5.167] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/misnagid@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.21E) with ESMTP id 952JaqDJR0082M30; Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:17 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 68.41.5.167 AUTH misnagid@usa.net 192.168.1.100 From: JerryN To: Ted Goranson In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20041121082609.00bec6b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> <20041121160307.3b5123ee@ariel.office.volker.de> <20041121124010.P1330@april.chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:09:05 -0500 Message-Id: <1105931346.5108.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Z-USANET-MsgId: XID952JaqDJR0082X30 cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Book recommendation (again) X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: misnagid@usa.net List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:09:21 -0000 Ted, I had similar problems. You have to read The FreeBSD Handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html carefully, especially Sections 5.3 through 5.7. And the other thing you MUST do is to just download and print the latest version on-line. The published book is already out of date. It went out of date as soon as it came out. Truly. Just download it and pretend it'd The Bible and you got it licked, I swear, no pun intended! Regarding books, I have yet to meet a FreeBSD book I haven't loved. And there's so many to choose from. This ain't no Debian Linux where you'll find just 3 all from the last century. The ones I liked the most from a newbie perspective were (1) FreeBSD Unleashed Second Edition by Urban and Tiemann (Sams) and the one you hated (2) The Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. Was it 4th Edition you bought? Maybe you'll like (3) The Complete Reference FreeBSD 5.0 by Roderick Smith. I have them all. You can probably examine a chapter or two at Amazon. Or if you'd like, I can prolly fax to you a particular chapter out of any FreeBSD book. Just let me know. Maybe others will help regarding your other questions. Jerr On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 21:25 -0500, Ted Goranson wrote: > I am a complete newbie, with only the most superficial (ie Fedora) experience. > > I have 5.3 and am stuck. I'd like to find a book that helps me with > just a few things, but: for someone not a systems administrator who > wants to set up a workstation. > > As an example of the level needed, where I'm stuck is I don't know > how to configure X from the incredibly primitive default setup. > > I wish to install and configure Fluxbox and Fluxspace, set up Emacs > with all sorts of goodies (got sufficient docs on that excepting > using ports), and vnc (or similar) from OSX. > > The online handbook wasn't helpful for my first problem. Complete > FreeBSD, Absolute BSD, and Design and Implementation seem targeted > toward admins and server setups. Am I wrong? > > Best, Ted