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Date:      26 Apr 2001 00:34:15 EST
From:      "Mark Sergeant" <msergeant@snsonline.net>
To:        "Charles Burns" <burnscharlesn@hotmail.com>, david@banning.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: make world needs single user mode?
Message-ID:  <200104260534.f3Q5YIL83345@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net>
In-Reply-To: <F199wr2UAaTzvb5YI9I0000ac9a@hotmail.com>
References:  <F199wr2UAaTzvb5YI9I0000ac9a@hotmail.com>

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I to have done many a make world whilst in multi-user mode. The thing is I also
keep a mirror of my production	machine where I upgrade it first to ensure that
it works ok then do the same on my remote machine. I have never had a problem
so far, what I do isn't ideal and if I had many machines & a terminal server I
would be much happier but it gets me by and snsonline.net just keeps humming
along.

Cheers,

Mark

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:24:01 -0700, Charles Burns said:

:: >When I created my system I think I may have made my root system
::  >too small. So I ended up linking a couple of the / directories
::  >to /usr.
::  >
::  >I just now wondering if that will pose a problem for a make world.
::  >If I remember correctly, I think you're supposed to go into single user
::  >mode?
::  >
::  >
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::  
::  
::  Despite recommendations against doing so, I did a "make world" on my server 
::  both in multi-user mode AND remotely. I am really lucky that it all 
::  succeeded perfectly and will now stop living on the edge, but the point is 
::  that you can do make worlds in multiuser mode and not destroy the universe.
::  
::  When I first installed FreeBSD on my home system, I did qutie a few 
::  experiments to see if I could break it. Not that this has anything to do 
::  with what you asked, but you may find it interesting. I found:
::  
::  1) Don't use every optimization that you can find on the kernel. This really 
::  pisses it off quite a bit.
::  
::  2) You can "make world" doing just about anything. I had one going while 
::  also having FTP, WWW, and mail users. Somehow FreeBSD didn't get confused 
::  and it all worked fine. <clap clap clap> I wouldn't do this on a system of 
::  any importance though.
::  
::  3) The only way that I found in all my travels to kill FreeBSD, short of 
::  messing with hardware, is by running a Linux app that has statically linked 
::  libraries on a FreeBSD 4.2 system that has Linux binary compatibility 
::  enabled. FreeBSD /really/ dislikes statically linked Linux apps. Other than 
::  that, I can't seem to crash it without cheating.
::  
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-- 
Mark Sergeant
Unix Systems Administrator

Fortune follows...

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