From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 22 8:20:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF5537B7A5 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from judah (spira-2-134.mdm.fox.execpc.com [169.207.25.72]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.1) id KAA23723; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:19:59 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Doug Poland" To: "jpaetzel" Cc: "ListServer FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: Old BIOS, large HD, and FreeBSD 4.0R Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:19:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00a901bfabff$7adedfa0$625662d1@gimpy.visi.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >> > >> Is the HD UDMA/66 or /33? If it is, you will have to get > >> a controller because those old systems don't support UDMA. > >> > >> That's probably why it isn't showing up in the BIOS. > >> > >> --bhishan > >> > >It says Ultra ATA/66. So that means I'll have to get a > >new IDE controller for the box? Any ideas how much a > >controller costs and suggested eRetailers? > > > >Appreciate your help! > > > >-- > >Doug > > > > > > > From: jpaetzel [mailto:jpaetzel@hutchtel.net] > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 21:07 > I think it will be pretty hard to find an ISA controller that supports > ATA/66. Your BIOS is limited to 2.1 gig partitions, so the largest > harddrive it can support fully is a 8 gig with 4 partitions on it. I can't > really think of any way around that short of upgrading the BIOS....and I > don't think that would be too easy either. I don't know what the situation > is in your area, but in Minneapolis some searching will find you old Pentium > motherboards chip and fan combos for about $30-$50. That might make more > sense than fighting with a 486. > Thanks for the answers. Since I occasionally get old 486's for free, and canabilize them for parts, I don't have to spend money on an old box to get it running FreeBSD. These freebies also give me the chance to install the latest version of FreeBSD and "operate" on them and not having to worry about the consquences. I have quite a collection of old 486's running various releases. This old machine in question will have to be satisfied with a couple of old 250mb/340mb HDs that are lying around and I'll save the 174gb HD for another day. Some day I'm going to spend money on a real computer! -- Doug > >> > > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > I've got an old 486 with phoenix BIOS dated 1992. I > >> > tried to install an new WD 17.4GB hard drive and set > >> > the Master drive to auto-detect. Upon boot the > >> > BIOS tells me there's an error auto-detecting the > >> > drive. > >> > > >> > If I set drive0 to not installed and continue > >> > with 4.0R installation, the probe finds the drive > >> > on ad0, and can read/write during an install. > >> > > >> > It looks like my BIOS simply will not recognize > >> > this HD. Is there anyway around it? Can I boot > >> > off a "FreeBSD boot floppy" and then load the > >> > kernel from the hard drive. > >> > > > I don't know if there is a way to do this or not...never tried it. > > > >> > I know the obvious question is why am I wasting > >> > my time with this old box? Well, it was free, > >> > I got a great deal on two Western Digital HDs, > >> > and this machine's only purpose in life is to > >> > run FreeBSD and act as a hard-drive back-up > >> > device. > >> > > > Sounds like an interesting fiberglass pigeon for my 10 guage. :) I like > old hardware, too, but I try not to actually use it for anything if I don't > have to. > > Josh > > >> > Thanks for all the help. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Doug Poland > >> > dpoland@execpc.com > >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message