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Date:      Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:53:55 -0700
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <crist.clark@attbi.com>
To:        "Jin Guojun[DSD]" <j_guojun@lbl.gov>
Cc:        Gregory Neil Shapiro <gshapiro@FreeBSD.org>, Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD-arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: conf/39444: rc.sendmail syntax error: cannot disable sendmail
Message-ID:  <20020619105355.B21469@blossom.cjclark.org>
In-Reply-To: <3D10386F.BD245FCA@lbl.gov>; from j_guojun@lbl.gov on Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 12:53:19AM -0700
References:  <3D0FB406.83DE356D@lbl.gov> <20020618155900.O2483-100000@master.gorean.org> <15632.6996.519381.823439@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3D102055.F08DD2AE@FreeBSD.org> <15632.9131.365021.260177@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3D10386F.BD245FCA@lbl.gov>

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On Wed, Jun 19, 2002 at 12:53:19AM -0700, Jin Guojun[DSD] wrote:
[snip]

> There is no need for another method to do above. Issues are:
> 
> (1) NONE is used only here, so it is not a "standard" syntax for general
> purpose. It is not clear if it means sendmail_enable=NO in old system or
> not.  So, above information with some further explanation need to be put
> into /etc/mail/README and/or in man/rc.sendmail.
> It is confusing.

From the 4.6 Release Notes,

  With this sendmail upgrade, multiple sendmail daemons (some required
  to handle outgoing mail) are started by rc(8), even if the
  sendmail_enable variable is set to NO. To completely disable sendmail,
  sendmail_enable must be set to NONE. Alternatively, for systems using
  a different MTA, the mta_start_script variable can be used to point to
  a different startup script (more details can be found in
  rc.sendmail(8)).

The "NONE" has already been discussed to _death_ on -current and
-stable. See,

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=257186+261471+/usr/local/www/db/text/2002/freebsd-current/20020331.freebsd-current

This and the other changes to sendmail(8) are documented in the
release notes, /etc/mail/README, /usr/src/UPDATING, and
/usr/src/contrib/sendmail/RELEASE_NOTES. If people don't find the
information in one of these places, putting it in yet another location
probably will not help.

> (2) From /etc/mail/README, running a daemon to accept localhost is needed
> for outbound traffic. If sendmail_submit_enable=NO and sendmail_enable=NO,
> then outbound mail will silently sinks. This needs to be clearly stated
> in some place easy to see because this is new.

It's in the release notes (as quoted above) and /usr/src/UPDATING
points to /etc/mail/README.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                     |     cjclark@alum.mit.edu
                                   |     cjclark@jhu.edu
http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/    |     cjc@freebsd.org

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