From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Apr 10 23:04:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-ports Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA10108 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hamby1.lightside.net (hamby1.lightside.net [198.81.209.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10078 Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jehamby@localhost) by hamby1.lightside.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00323; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:01:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hamby1.lightside.net: jehamby owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Hamby X-Sender: jehamby@hamby1 To: Richard Chang cc: Terry Lambert , lenzi@cwbone.bsi.com.br, ports@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Lesstif (motif compatible) package. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ports@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Richard Chang wrote: > Speaking about motif, is there anyway to have the same X > environment as in what is used on SUNOS 5.3 (Solaris) on SUN Sparc5's and > what is used on HP Apollo Workstations with the same desktop under FreeBSD? > > Richard Before Solaris 2.4, the Openwindows environment supplied with Solaris (and SunOS) was completely OPEN LOOK oriented, with that widget set. Personally, I find OPEN LOOK ugly and non-intuitive, but I like a few of the OPEN LOOK "Deskset" tools, such as Perfmeter, and the public domain program Workman. Starting with Solaris 2.4, Sun included the Motif libraries and header files, but it took until Solaris 2.5 to receive the Motif window manager, some useful Motif tools, and the Motif man pages, as part of the Common Desktop Environment (which is on a separate CD-ROM). I believe HP workstations use Motif (and have long before Sun adopted it), so I suspect this is what you're referring to. Under FreeBSD, you can get the OPEN LOOK Xview toolkit for free (it is in the ports collection), and it comes with Clock, the Open look window manager, command tool, and you can compile Workman (another port) with it. You don't get any of the other Deskset tools you might be used to from SunOS/Solaris however (mailtool, perfmeter, etc.). You'll have to buy Solaris/X86 if you want that. As for Motif (which I think you were referring to), a binary distribution costs about $150, and FreeBSD versions are available from several sources, such as SWiM. Sorry, I don't have any contact information for them.. Anyway, it looks like Common Desktop Environment (extended Motif 1.2 plus some goodies in a more integrated desktop environment) will be available soon for FreeBSD too. Oh, and don't forget, if you actually have a Sun or HP workstation available, you can log in to it from your FreeBSD box, setenv DISPLAY back to your computer, and run any program available for those machines on your X server. Have fun! ---Jake