From owner-freebsd-ppc Mon Jan 8 17:11:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9812637B400 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AD1AF5751E; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:12:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:12:34 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the abi & hardware support Message-ID: <20010108191234.A88168@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" References: <200101082315.f08NFh316673@salzburg-online.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101082315.f08NFh316673@salzburg-online.at>; from julian.mayer@sbg.at on Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:15:37AM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5025 F691 F943 8128 48A8 5025 77CE 29C5 8FA1 2E20 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x8FA12E20 Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [To all on this thread, keep your line length to 72 letters please. :) ] On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:15:37AM +0100, Julian Mayer scribbled: | > The biggest difference between the 2 is that in NewWorld the low level "MacOS | > ROM" (which had been in hardware since the original Macintosh) has been moved | > to a file in the System Folder of MacOS <10. I'm sure the reason this was done | > was to comply with MacOS X, which would make no use of it. Hence OSX/Darwin's | > requirements of a "G3" or better. | | Actually, compatible systems for Darwin include: * Power Macintosh 7300, 7600, 8500, 8600, 9500, 9600 * Power Macintosh G3 * PowerBook G3 (Wall Street) * Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) * Power Macintosh G4 * PowerBook G3 (bronze keyboard) * iBook * iMac | | The MacOSX/Darwin Bootloader has been pushed to the CVS repository recently and supports some Old and all New World Machines (mainly all 601/603 machines are unsupported). | "It understands loading kernels from HFS+, UFS, TFTP and even EXT2. It can load kernels in Mach-O and ELF format." All of the people interested and contributing know about MkLinux / Darwin / Linux/PPC / NetBSD. I think that we will support whatever is at hand with the developers. There is no need for constant bickering over what should be supported. (Hint hint, bikeshed stops here. :-) ) For me, personally, I would like to support at least the G3/G4 and the _newer_ embedded platforms, especially PPC8420. This means that your junk from the garage would not be (at least speaking for myself) a great priority. We have enough work as is, and more outcry for more support won't change the fact that so few people are contributing. Besides, we are so far from PCI discussions....Gotta be able to boot to be able to talk PCI.... Michael -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message