From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 28 20:42:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A339850; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay05.ispgateway.de (smtprelay05.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E0F03E5; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [80.67.16.118] (helo=webmailfront01.ispgateway.de) by smtprelay05.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1XjDUE-0003QF-PY; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:35:26 +0100 Received: from a89-182-206-145.net-htp.de (a89-182-206-145.net-htp.de [89.182.206.145]) by webmail.df.eu (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:35:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 21:35:26 +0100 Message-ID: <20141028213526.Horde.WmTRslgo-hNbim44HjeQAA6@webmail.df.eu> From: Marcus von Appen To: John Baldwin Subject: Re: junior kernel tasks References: <20141025204536.GD19066@dft-labs.eu> <201410281321.31986.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201410281321.31986.jhb@freebsd.org> Reply-to: mva@freebsd.org User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.0.4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-Df-Sender: ZnJlZWJzZEBzeXNmYXVsdC5vcmc= Cc: Mateusz Guzik , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, bugmeister@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:42:11 -0000 Quoting John Baldwin : > On Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:45:36 pm Mateusz Guzik wrote: >> Hello, >> >> In short, nice kernel tasks people with C language skills can do in few >> evenings. >> >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/JuniorJobs >> >> It is assumed you know how to obtain sources and build the kernel. >> >> What you can get in return: >> - your own code in FreeBSD tree >> - eternal glory [1] >> - fun [2] >> >> If you are not interested, but know someone who does, please pass it >> down. >> >> [1] - not really, no >> [2] - well, I guess that's subjective, so that's not a "no" > > Even though our bugmeisters have decided that we should not have wishlist > items in our bug tracker, I really wish we could store the various idea lists > (we have several) in an issue tracker instead. This would allow for folks to > comment on ideas, vote for them, etc. It would also make it easier for more > people to submit new ideas. > Speaking not strictly with the bugmeister hat, but from experience, please do not let us go down the road of (ab)using a bug tracking solution as task and idea management system. I think that using the tasks feature of phabricator (our reviews instance) would provide better workflow support for those things, starting out from sketching out rough ideas, discussing them, breaking them up in seperate tasks (linked to and dependent on each other) and collaborating on them (take a look at https://developer.blender.org/T42339 for a brief example). Having said this, let's keep the bug tracker a bug tracker. Cheers Marcus