From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 27 12:57:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 683C7A7D; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shepard.synsport.net (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36CBECFF; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [130.255.19.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A62438BD; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 07:57:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5334201D.8060704@marino.st> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:57:01 +0100 From: John Marino User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Dokuchaev , Rusmir Dusko Subject: Re: svn commit: r347539 - in head: biology/genpak biology/rasmol cad/chipmunk databases/typhoon databases/xmbase-grok devel/asl devel/flick devel/happydoc devel/ixlib devel/p5-Penguin-Easy editors/axe ... References: <201403082226.s28MQMtI079354@svn.freebsd.org> <20140327111602.GA57802@FreeBSD.org> <20140327125909.6b102c8d@nemysis3now> <20140327125136.GC93483@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20140327125136.GC93483@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Antoine Brodin , svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:57:37 -0000 On 3/27/2014 13:51, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:59:09PM +0100, Rusmir Dusko wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:16:02 +0000 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >>> E.g. I've set a few of my ports free (that is, relinquished control over to >>> ports@) to let others do occasional updates or minor tweaks without having >>> to wait for me to approve their changes. It works well enough for simple >>> ports that are hard to damage by careless committing which had sadly become >>> quite popular recently. >> >> True when is Upstream alive and not Port have one maintainer, then is good >> to have these Ports. >> >> Not all Ports must have one maintainer. Please not so simple deprecate good >> Port. > > Yes, my point exactly. I know some people think (and they have their merit) > that having 25K+ ports is unrealistic and quite a few of them are crap. (I > will probably elaborate more of this in reply to original thread from couple > of weeks ago; still catching up with my email backlog, sorry.) > > However, I do believe that we need to have a more formal set of rules when > it comes to ports deprecation (and subsequent removal), esp. given how small > is probation period now (typically one of two months). why is short probation period a problem? "svn revert" brings it right back if somebody cares enough to resurrect it. Most on probation have been either broken for months or untended for years. I'd bet 99% of these nobody hears a peep about when they are gone. For the remaining 1%: version control is there for them. Resurrection is a sign the port is actually wanted. John