From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Mon Oct 12 03:33:33 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAAE42B205; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 03:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C8kmF3PTDz4qnN; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 03:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1602473613; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=6B4rw4Z3angHWCZ0aJV5vCF4c8wvr3kGNnLGJAv5BKg=; b=D+G/u2iIoDhzDwChBKOQO64KtpGMLYoI0n25mN8eNaYNyPhicCk5MLxWv7IG79p56SQpRn 15kH3nSFoKTSsHOisfCcyhsnBkYnUrIrOuna136KG1FltBQHX+5JEPEiqSwPhQd5Q1gnAw ecxVuiFPRG+7L/mv/aBVjdsU1bsdoxV7ys4K9G9cXwlLpJ3IBQm8D3tC7VNc0lAEQfsmuX FE2JrghmcyZnnl3feGQqDaUknZdx+CQjvEi9FdM65M33SiGIt6OAYd1EWMYyVErbumUYn0 1gxZlx1WTFOgqnBQvN7D6Czal8yoSTssft58+3sqQuGCQVTmAm3stNU69eWq3Q== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 66C311CFBD; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 03:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 03:33:33 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Warner Losh Cc: Kyle Evans , Toomas Soome , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head Subject: Re: svn commit: r366626 - head/sbin/reboot Message-ID: <20201012033333.GB38670@FreeBSD.org> References: <202010111040.09BAeCfg073782@repo.freebsd.org> <8601CC07-3A43-461A-915C-3CB68BADF41A@me.com> <20201011130151.GA32755@FreeBSD.org> <35355AD6-42C6-48A2-8FCF-A371A82D683A@me.com> <20201011133023.GA67893@FreeBSD.org> <20201012021324.GA38670@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1602473613; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=6B4rw4Z3angHWCZ0aJV5vCF4c8wvr3kGNnLGJAv5BKg=; b=mCi8eCgkfSrTHmihtjxgq/rfxOwvbndnPfv75PcPOK+48HAbQF9DaXUzurN3YEIEWnj0zn ab4ey+tanHyvp17BUDo4/GYIJqLoiwIAAEtRdj3BCReEbs3bspxnVtwpeDBBlJNa8aDmxa /MfTrBUlu4xhcdmJtcrjSqbLrs8x7F929elgnZcceF9YzSemev19h74BQc5C3kA57Xjr1+ GSzpCdlpTTQ/lFIjdxt/hKjtM9eQS2HPHL6pz1JurCEhJJnWqSthIRJuiPb13eddEH3UPr fTgnvzASh/eanBEgvoYxMqyc53v9atgo429ecuRODBvgHNFQLdfoRCPB7Tu8MQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1602473613; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=iv1VYBXOVk7RIG4ei/AOlPam3F9QXMX022TzB1W5nKQ+qd8BaqqXcSWnQlMzmn+LXADYeZ Rq2NnV6A61r/AITFygTvH0ZMtWdKHSWXKRcVIjt+ScQGNbJrhxxK8bf0lMZcZfMSNGJxzh +ohKz4X0MmSsd1L2aYunA1OwDehvWBoOn3UJ6W6yhFKrUhZ2FtJoXVdDrszQBtHJNZ+9a/ BF40fgYvk7mQ7Nw8kCKMunx4xs7GCORQymUPD5aD/6yuZiduoHmG4nOTz3lk2nsh9I0j4U 3Is0e5J4+yBw+D/Z86yWvMP2+b4EZezoCDDIYAPa6SnApmvITI7zZ7vc+IbJrA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 03:33:33 -0000 On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 09:17:42PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2020, 8:13 PM Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > ... > > I still don't understand how could rm be better than graceful disabling > > alternative configuration with nextboot_enable="NO". I most certainly > > do *not* like when my custom config files are being removed, especially > > silently. When I see nextboot_enable="NO" I know that the file > > had been processed, and processed by the machine, not me (since I would > > never add trailing space). When I don't see the file, I'd be questioning > > myself if I've ever added it here, or maybe I put in the wrong location. > > Nextboot.conf is special. It will be deleted. It doesn't belong to you, it > belongs to nextboot(8). OK, I see your point. > > Personally I find them quite useful, except when they contradict the > > reality (like this time). In these cases, I'd fix them. > > For now, it's fine. Fair enough; I guess we can now wrap this discussion up, thanks! ./danfe