From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Feb 13 10:55:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dracula.info.kiev.ua (dracula.info.net.ua [212.26.132.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D172E37B402 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dracula.info.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g1DIsVq40932 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:54:31 +0200 (EET) Received: by lena.kiev.ua (UUPC/@ v6.16, 16Apr96) id AA04325; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:48:43 +0200 (EET) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: From: Lena@lena.kiev.ua Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:48:43 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.43 MSDOS] Subject: Re: Old Computer MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, It's my first post on Unix-related forums. I think that my question is more appropriate here than on freebsd-questions, but if not then say and I'll post there (or is there even more appropriate place?). Please advise which packages/ports to select in described below circumstances. > From: "Freddie Cash" > > 8meg ram > You'll need more ram. FreeBSD will run in 8 megs, but unless you > feel like getting into the nitty gritty, the installer won't run. > Needs at least 12 megs for the installer to run properly. > I don't think you'll be > able to run XFree on there (I know GNOME and KDE won't run, but > maybe just plain X will) I just upgraded to second-hand AMD K6-166, Award BIOS (1997), 32M RAM, PCI videocard S3 Trio 64V2/DX (755) with 1M videomemory, new 20G IDE HDD (Seagate ST320410A), new Chinese (Actima A36J) 36x CD-ROM, a sound card with "Yamaha YMF719E-S" printed on the main chip (BIOS' PnP says "OPL3-SA3"), still use old color VGA monitor 14" (with the new videocard have to use a DOS program for decrease of refresh rate to lowest for 800x600, 1024x768 doesn't work - out of synch - even with lowest refresh rate), 14400 data/fax/voice internal modem (ISA bus) with Cirrus Logic chipset (no sense to upgrade modem because of ancient analog phone station), serial 3-buttons mouse, Fujitsu DL900 matrix printer (24 needles). Currently I use DOS with QEMM and Windows 3.1 mostly as a task switcher between several DOS-sessions, each with a Norton Commander clone run in full-screen 80x25 text mode (bright white or bright cyan text on dark blue background), it's doesn't stress my eyes. I use a small text editor with block functions and WordStar-like keys (Ctrl-K B to mark beginning of block etc.) also in 80x25 text mode. My main Internet access is email-only (UUCP dial-up) - it's substantially cheaper than full online (we here have to pay for local phone calls by minute, quite expensive for me), but sometimes I use full online access - PPP dial-up with usual (without PAP etc.) authentication (currently Netscape 3.01 and Trumpet Winsock under Windows 3.1). I know Perl, C, Assembler, DOS commands (command-line is OK for me :), some of internals of DOS and hardware (designed and made an ISA card), a little Unix shells, sometime worked as a computer technician and system programmer on Soviet IBM-360/370-compatible mainframes. I plan to install (from a CD when it'll be available locally) FreeBSD 4.5-Release as dual-boot, HDD set in BIOS as LBA, first 2G of HDD as one DOS FAT16 partition, the rest for FreeBSD: 128M swap (may be later I'll upgrade RAM if needed, but would prefer to save the expense), the rest as one piece I'd prefer: I don't like lack of space on one partition/slice with plenty of space on another. Please advise which packages/ports to select: 1. A set of a window manager and a graphical web-browser able to use TrueColor 640x480 mode and HiColor 800x600 mode. Besides browser in full-screen graphical mode, the window manager must support several switchable from keyboard (I rarely use mouse except with web-browser) sessions using full-screen 80x25 text mode. Browser must be able to work not only online, but also offline, be launched from a mail client (if HTML source of web-page arrived as an attachment to a letter) and fill forms with