From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 28 16:39:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448B937B401 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from reallynicejerk.com (silver.reallynicehosting.com [216.40.238.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9A443FAF for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:39:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hosting@reallynicehosting.com) Received: from bigblackhole (ts46-01-qdr64.astra.or.charter.com [66.190.246.64]) (authenticated (0 bits))h3R512921392 for ; Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:01:02 -0700 From: "RN Hosting" To: Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:04:57 -0700 Message-ID: <002701c30c7a$8cccc7c0$6401a8c0@bigblackhole> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20030426190032.A034437B404@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Marvin RE: Best Way Blocking Spams X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:39:03 -0000 Yikes, my jaw hit the floor when I saw the prices for Marvin. What makes it so much better than SpamAssassin that it's worth that price? Personally, I don't see how a host could afford that and why they would want to pay a monthly fee with the availability of databases like spamcop, GPL programs like SpamAssassin, Razor, MailScanner, Bogofilter etc. That costs more than all of my other overhead combined, per domain that I host. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:59:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Adam Maloney Subject: RE: Best Way Blocking Spams To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is somewhat of a shameless plug, but since it's on topic I think it's appropriate. We are a Minneapolis based ISP. We didn't like any of the current solutions available, so we developed our own. It's similar to Postini, but we've put a lot of thought into it which makes it very ISP-centric, so I like it better. And it runs on FreeBSD. We have a specific pricing structure for service providers who want to provide it to their customers. It is a commercial solution, but if anyone is looking for another "hands off" approach like Troy mentioned, check http://marvin.sihope.com. Adam Maloney Systems Administrator Sihope Communications