From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 30 10:28:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [12.9.219.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D0837BBBB for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from HARLIE.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [12.9.219.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e5UHSab39057; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Chris Phillips Cc: DAve Goodrich , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Primitive tools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Chris Phillips wrote: > Primitive? I think that is perhaps the wrong choice of > words. Basic? lynx certainly is. vi basic? I think not. I use both > tools regularily. What happens when you need to look at apache's > server-status and there is no GUI available? I certainly wouldn't want to > run X on a production server just to be able to look at needed > information. In my opinion vi is the most powerful editor out > there. Emacs is a close second. Not sure what you see in joe. While I hate vi, I agree that it should be part of the system base, though I don't object to also having a more user friendly editor (ee, or jed configured properly (yes, I'm working on updating the jed port). Used to use joe, but I can't remember if it would go as far towards user friendlyness as the latest jed). At least I've stopped wishing for a unix version of DME :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message