From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 17:09:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4DA1065681; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@freebsd.org) Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (hen.cisco.com [64.102.19.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D78C8FC17; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@freebsd.org) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id m53GkjI26521; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [64.102.220.143] (dhcp-64-102-220-143.cisco.com [64.102.220.143]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id m53Gkiu11953; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48457574.20108@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:46:44 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: FreeBSD, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: remko@elvandar.org References: <200805301426.m4UEQ92d025434@repoman.freebsd.org> <48405C4B.3050603@FreeBSD.org> <1212179252.1967.1.camel@localhost> <33dfad267556d52723e95461f5eb7c34.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> In-Reply-To: <33dfad267556d52723e95461f5eb7c34.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Maxim Sobolev , src-committers@freebsd.org, Florent Thoumie , cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Coleman Kane Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/add main.c pkg_add.1 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/create main.c pkg_create.1 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/delete main.c pkg_delete.1 src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/info main.c pkg_info.1 ... X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:09:02 -0000 Remko Lodder wrote: > On Tue, June 3, 2008 5:18 pm, Florent Thoumie wrote: >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Coleman Kane wrote: >>> On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:58 -0700, Maxim Sobolev wrote: >>>> I am curious what is our policy on using long options in the base >>>> system >>>> (if any)? I believe that pkg_install is the first non-contributed base >>>> system utility to actually widely use it. For some reason I've got >>>> impression that use of getopt_long is considered "the Linux/GNU way", >>>> this API provided for compatibility purposes and its use in base system >>>> is discouraged. Quick grep through /use/src seemingly supports that. >>>> >>>> Can someone confirm/reject? >>> I am not sure about policy, however I do appreciate the long options >>> sometimes. Primarily, I think they are useful (in a self-documenting >>> way) for use in shell scripts. I tend to prefer the single-char options >>> when I am doing the administration myself. >> I'm not aware of such policy. >> >> I think they're useful because as far as pkg_install is concerned, we >> are using single-char options that are hard to match to the action >> it's doing. Here are a couple examples: >> >> - pkg_create -h doesn't call usage() because it's already taken. >> - it's easy to confuse pkg_info -o and pkg_info -O. >> >> I'll back it out if general consensus is that long options should be >> avoided. >> >> -- >> Florent Thoumie >> flz@FreeBSD.org >> FreeBSD Committer >> > > I like the change (long opts). +1 I don't see why we should abandon something that is convenient for our users just because Linux does it. Joe -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome