From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 26 5: 5: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ECB37B41C for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f8QC52n55000 ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:05:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id OAA05617 ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:05:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 14:05:02 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Michael Lucas Cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Another article, from the "other side" Message-ID: <20010926140502.I1370@lpt.ens.fr> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010924170815.0180aee8@threespace.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010924191808.0227cf28@threespace.com> <3BAFD532.6ED7A320@duth.gr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010926015428.01814630@threespace.com> <20010926125046.C1370@lpt.ens.fr> <20010926070519.A30531@blackhelicopters.org> <20010926132021.E1370@lpt.ens.fr> <20010926072915.A30655@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010926072915.A30655@blackhelicopters.org>; from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org on Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 07:29:15AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,558187,00.html by a Pakistani journalist who has met bin Laden. There was, however, one significant element missing from his list of grievances: he did not say anything about the idea of America - its rights, its freedoms, its prosperity. It was in American foreign policy that he saw the greatest threat to Islam. Indeed, he criticised the west for supporting dictators and authoritarian regimes in Islamic countries simply because it suited their interests. Which is what America just refuses to realise. They virtuously call it a "cowardly" attack on "democracy and freedom" -- as if he or his followers care about how US citizens live their lives. And, on this list and elsewhere, it seems that too many Americans have this idea that to understand the man and his motivations is to condone the attacks. So they don't even want to know. I don't follow this. Even if the only thing you read is pulp thriller fiction, isn't it always considered important to understand the enemy? Isn't it even possible to condemn the attacks and at the same time condemn the policies that have led to such huge resentment in so many parts of the world? R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message