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Date:      Tue, 13 Oct 2015 10:10:03 +0200
From:      Terje Elde <terje@elde.net>
To:        Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Are udp packets with non-routeable ip addresses valid on public network?
Message-ID:  <1D0B2805-EE1F-48E8-A0F6-94B3A93BE175@elde.net>
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> On 13 Oct 2015, at 09:06, Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>=20
> Uh... DHCP usually uses just layer-2 (ie. Ethernet) addressing which =
is
> a useful feature in a protocol designed to specify host IP =
addresses...
> In those cases where you can't have a DHCP server on the same ethernet
> segment, there is a specific default IP address range for a client =
host
> to fall back to in order to make a layer-3 connection to a DHCP server
> -- which is the 169.254.0.0/16 link-local address range.  See RFC =
5735.

Using my ISP as an example, they=92re operating their DHCP-server on =
10.245.0.1.  It=92s actually quite common.

As for =93just layer-2 addressing=94, I=92m not sure about your wording, =
as there=92s always L3 involved, just broadcast ones.  I do get your =
point though, and it=92s valid for initial setup, but using direct =
unicast between server and client is fine once they=92ve established an =
IP.  For things like renewals.

> If his ISP was using 10.0.0.0/8 addresses for their customer-facing
> network segments, I'm pretty sure the OP would have been told about it
> and hence not be alarmed at seeing that traffic.

I=92ve never seen or heard of an ISP that informs their customers of =
this.  In my case, it=92s one of Norways largest cable providers.




I=92m not saying it=92s probably in this case, just nice to rule out, or =
take the cheap =93Don=92t worry about it.=94 if it is the case.

Terje


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