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Date:      Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:13:38 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" <chad@shire.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: web calendar program recommendation
Message-ID:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNOELMFBAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <E86EBECF-D41F-484F-8B72-DC3727BADF9D@shire.net>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Leigh --
>Shire.Net LLC
>Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:46 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: FreeBSD Questions
>Subject: Re: web calendar program recommendation
>
>
>
>On Jun 17, 2005, at 12:20 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bob Bomar
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 9:18 AM
>>> To: Noah; questions@freebsd.org
>>> Subject: Re: web calendar program recommendation
>>>
>>>
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>>>
>>> Noah wrote:
>>> | FreeBSD-4.11 R3
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | I am looking for a really nice calendar program that I can
>>> run from a web
>>> | interface.  That has the ability to import my calendar from my
>>> palm.
>>> |
>>> | horde is nice but I cant import any of my palm calendars.
>>> |
>>> | neither can webcalendar unless there is some recent update in
>>> the past 3
>>> | months that does it now.
>>> |
>>> | evolution is nice but I think this is X only and not for the
>>> web.  please
>>> | correct me if I am wrong.
>>> |
>>> | Please pass along any recommendations.
>>>
>>> I use deskutils/phpicalendar.  iCal on my Mac is able to
>>> sync with it.
>>> There are several out there.  Another that
>>> I have used is Web Calendar, http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php.
>>> Its pretty good.q
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The problem isn't the applications.  The problem is that Palm in it's
>> infinite stupidity does not support any of the standardized calendar
>> syncing formats.  And your also confused because the ical on a Mac
>> isn't the same thing as IETF's standard  RFC2445 spec iCAL.
>
>Uhh, I have not tried to interoperate but Apple iCal uses .ics files
>when publishing or sending invites.  Those seem to be the same as
>your RFC 2445 spec iCAL.  Your linuxmafia link below even shows this...
>

Perhaps you are right and the iCal app in MacOS X can output
RFC-compliant
.ics files.  But the syncing program that talks from MacOS X's iCal and
the Palm Pilot doesen't speak iCAL data files, it speaks it's own
proprietary
format.

>
>>
>> Palm claims support of ical for their handhelds but they are talking
>> about the ical application on a Mac.  They aren't talking about the
>> standards-based RFC, which is what Horde and all the other calendaring
>> applications support.
>
>Now, palm may synch directly to the Apple iCal data and not to an ics
>file, I don't know, so in that way you would be right.  But Apple
>iCal seems to use the "standard" iCAL format for communications.
>

But he wants an app on FreeBSD not on MacOS X.  Apple hasn't provided
source
for it's iCal app, and Palm certainly hasn't provided source for the
syncer program that goes from a Palm Pilot to the MacOS X, so this is
still just as bad as syncing to Palm Desktop on a windows box then
outputting
in comma-delimited, then pulling that into Horde (or equivalent)

Ted




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