From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 15 18:46:05 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954EED0ECF3 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay12.qsc.de (mailrelay12.qsc.de [212.99.163.153]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07874A04 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay12.qsc.de; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:45:44 +0100 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-117.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFFDA3CBF9; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:45:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v2FIjgqw002026; Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:45:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:45:42 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Christian Baer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about display managers... Message-Id: <20170315194542.f1a393ff.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1e7c8769-36e1-fc80-d897-484b9468a605@uni-dortmund.de> References: <1e7c8769-36e1-fc80-d897-484b9468a605@uni-dortmund.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay12.qsc.de with 37A986A3A78 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.2004 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:46:05 -0000 On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:12:08 +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > Because I like to play with different WM and desktops, I have installed > Lumina, Xfce and Openbox - there might be more. But there is the > thing about the DM. On Opensuse Leap I can install KDM5 (which I > actually do like) as a separate package (with very little KDE clutter). > FreeBSD doesn't have it as a separate package, so I'd have to install > KDE completely - which I am trying to avoid. I think you only need kde-base and kde-libs for kdm to work. Maybe there are KDE-less alternatives that you might want to consider, for example SLIM or WDM? > Strangely, GDM is there as > a separate package, but since it wants to install the current Gnome3 > (~950MB), I won't go down that road either. I also cannot recommend to do this. A recent update where the Gnome part replaced Gnome 2 with Gnome 3 (and lead to total unusefulness of the system) taught me not to deal with Gnome anymore. Sadly, MATE (a Gnome 2 fork, partially compatible) doesn't include a "gdm lookalike", that's why I switched to SLIM - therefore my recommendation. > XDM works but looks like > it's stuck in the early 90s. Well, xdm is very functional and customizable, but you have to manually edit files to do so. It's secure (in a way that it doesn't suggest user names, display passwords or autologins users) and also _very_ fast. Additionally, it's very lightweight on X dependencies. Personally, I'm still using it on a daily basis, so it must be good for something / someone. ;-) > Can someone recommend a DM[2], that can be installed under FreeBSD > (without having to install a complete desktop along side it), preferably > one that looks modern attractive (customers will see this laptop) and > makes changing between desktops nice and simple? Again, I'd like to mention WDM (the WindowMaker display manager) and especially SLIM, super easy to setup, fast, and looks good. END OF LINE. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...