From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jan 28 6:24:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F9314EF0 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 06:24:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 12ECJw-000Fek-00; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:24:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA65406; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:24:19 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 14:24:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: John Rosenberg Cc: Greg Lehey , "Joerg B. Micheel" , "Steven M. Schultz" , pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au, FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Sun release source code for Solaris 8 In-Reply-To: <002001bf6996$34389ec0$b439bfa8@home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm a little concerned where all this leaves FreeBSD. If Solaris goes open source, or something similar, and tries to compete with w2k, plus linux is out there growing, and BeOS will be free soon.... FreeBSD might be a tough sell. Several guys i know say the majority of new unix installs are Linux with few BSD. They say the only BSD users that are growing are ISPs. Does anyone have any stats on how fast we are growing on the desktop, or in general? Also, the white paper on BeOS claims that with all the new advances in hardware, modern OS's have too many layers, which they call 'silt', to allow them to use the hardware effectively. They argue that only starting from scratch allows full use of modern technology, including multimedia advances. How can FreeBSD keep up? We don't have kernel threading and SMP support is still in the works, and most BSD features are 'add-ons'. Should this be a concern for the future? -=> jm <=- "Do not taunt the Happy Fun Ball." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message