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To: "Frank E. Terhaar-Yonkers" <fty@mcnc.org>
cc: jmb@FreeBSD.org, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: ppp 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Dec 1995 09:14:24 EST."
             <199512191414.JAA27171@robin.mcnc.org.mcnc.org> 
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 06:53:13 -0800
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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
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Maybe what has to happen first is you need to figure out a way of
causing ppp to kill your system *without* running X, e.g. so that
we can get into ddb and see what's panicing!

				Jordan

> This is bogus.  The phone lines to my house are so crappy that I regularly
> have to kill ijppp and restart it.  I don't want to have to kill all the X 
> stuff as well, before I restart PPP.  Running ijppp and X has been a
> crap shoot.  About 1/4 the time, killing ppp locks up the system.
> 
> What's the problem and why can't we fix it?
> 
> - Frank
> 
> 
>  >In reply to Jonathan M. Bresler who said
>  >> 
>  >> On Mon, 18 Dec 1995, Paul Richards wrote:
>  >> 
>  >> > Killing ppp also has the side-effect of killing the X server. This make
s
>  >> > it a real pain to use.
>  >> 
>  >> OUCH!
>  >> watch out for the "delete ALL" in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.  it works for me usi
ng
>  >> the following:
>  >
>  >I will, that'd probably be the problem if it is there. 
>  >
>  >> Aspen:[7] tail /etc/rc.local
>  >> #
>  >> /usr/sbin/ppp -auto atinc
>  >> /sbin/ping -c 10 198.138.38.21
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >> # X11 server
>  >> if [ -x /usr/X11/bin/xdm ]; then
>  >>         echo -n ' xdm';         (sleep 5 ; /usr/X11/bin/xdm) &
>  >> fi
>  >> 
>  >> the ping gets ppp to dial and set up the routes BEFORE xdm gets started, 
>  >> else my /etc/ppp/ppp.{conf,linkup} took X down when it reconfiged the rou
tes
>  >
>  >Good idea, sounds like this is exactly what's happening.
>  >
>  >-- 
>  >  Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd.
>  >  Internet: paul@netcraft.co.uk, http://www.netcraft.co.uk
>  >  Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1225 447500 (work)
>  >
> 
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