From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 15 16:54:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49865106564A for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:54:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78F88FC19 for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 16:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A6C1C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.108.28]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n4FGsSxL027677; Fri, 15 May 2009 18:54:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n4FGsGju012838; Fri, 15 May 2009 18:54:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4FGsrLM028804; Fri, 15 May 2009 18:55:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200905151655.n4FGsrLM028804@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Achim Patzner From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 15 May 2009 17:48:11 +0200." <790C89F7-2F10-4601-B984-64B3988BAF82@bnc.net> Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 18:54:53 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD jobs X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:54:35 -0000 > >> Internships are an accepted way for a high school or university > > > > In America. America imported unpaid apprenticeships & indentured > > servitude (time limited slavery) from Europe/Britain centuries ago. > > Take this somewhere else, it's getting boring. Grown-ups should know > what they're doing without your protection and the rest might learn > a bit on their own. You'r right on adults & free choice, I'll drop that rather than drift. What I was trying to illustrate is what jobs@ censors pass & block. - jobs@ is censored, so jobs@ censors performance cant be discussed on jobs@. - Those that pushed to censor jobs@ some years ago (& succesors?) are not worth having, jobs@FreeBSD would be better without them. - Censors of jobs@ do not have the courage to announce on footer or header of jobs@ that they censor jobs@freebsd. - Most don't know jobs@freebsd Is censored. Most think only announce@ is moderated , & maybe arch@. - Moving to chat@ is for things that drift off from FreeSBD, but FreeBSD censorship Is relevant to FreeBSD, - Where better than hackers@ to look for support to liberate jobs@freebsd from censors ? Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail plain ASCII text. HTML & Base64 text are spam. www.asciiribbon.org