From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 2 10:58:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE996B1; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:58:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA898FC08; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUEwl-0004Wv-98; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:57:55 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUEwk-0004u7-RY; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:57:54 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qA2Avs2N023953; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:57:54 GMT (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id qA2AvsB2023952; Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:57:54 GMT (envelope-from mexas) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 10:57:54 GMT From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201211021057.qA2AvsB2023952@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk, theraven@theravensnest.org Subject: Re: FORTRAN vs. Fortran (was: November 5th is Clang-Day) In-Reply-To: <028D38DC-C5C4-40F1-9F20-3E11072DDC22@theravensnest.org> Cc: erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com, grog@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bristol.ac.uk List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:58:02 -0000 From theraven@theravensnest.org Fri Nov 2 10:54:08 2012 On 2 Nov 2012, at 10:21, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > further development of > FreeBSD/ia64 and FreeBSD/sparc64 > will probably suffer and then stop altogether There is a SPARC64 back end for LLVM that needs some attention but would be relatively easy to get up to production quality if anyone cared. The IA64 back end bitrotted and died, although there's now a bit better generic infrastructure for VLIW architectures (contributed by Qualcomm for the Hexagon DSP), so resurrecting it is possible, but I doubt anyone cares because Itanium is basically dead. Oracle seems intent on mismanaging SPARC to death too, so I'm not sure how long it will be around either. I'd be happy to help anyone who is interested in resurrecting either of these, marcel@ was working on LLVM backend for ia64. Anton