From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 12:52:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CD016A4CE for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk (tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096BF43D3F for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:52:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.166] helo=localhost) by tx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdyBu-0003bO-Gm for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:52:42 +0000 Received: from rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.165]) by localhost (scan1.oucs.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.166]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 13750-03 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:52:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.161.253]) by rx1.oucs.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AdyBu-0003bL-3N for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:52:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 11406 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jan 2004 20:52:42 -0000 Received: from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk by gateway by uid 71 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (sweep: 2.14/3.71. spamassassin: 2.53. Clear:. Processed in 1.536642 secs); 06 Jan 2004 20:52:42 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk via gateway X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.16 (Clear:. Processed in 1.536642 secs) Received: from dhcp1131.wadham.ox.ac.uk (HELO piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk) (163.1.161.131) by gateway.wadham.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Jan 2004 20:52:40 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.1.20040106204233.04436d28@imap.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@imap.sfu.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:52:37 +0000 To: Mark Linimon From: Colin Percival In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:52:50 -0000 At 20:31 06/01/2004, Mark Linimon wrote: >There are hundreds of PRs still to be processed that do have >patches -- in fact, on most days the backlog is getting bigger, >not smaller. Speaking of which... if there's one thing which could be done to improve committer / non-committer relations, it would be to *do* something with all those PRs. The ports team is pretty good -- my maintainer updates have always been committed fairly quickly -- but I've never had a src patch committed without badgering committer(s) about my PRs. Don't misunderstand me; I think the project is heading in the right direction, and committers are doing a great job. But I think the contributions of non-committers could make FreeBSD even better, and those contributions are being largely lost or ignored. Colin Percival