From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Apr 18 8:46: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70FC137B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:45:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 24438 invoked by uid 100); 18 Apr 2001 15:45:57 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.46773.901325.959773@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:45:57 -0500 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: James Howard , Brett Glass , Kris Kirby , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: banner(6) In-Reply-To: <20010418153931.R27000@lpt.ens.fr> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010417125214.0456f470@localhost> <20010418153931.R27000@lpt.ens.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan types: > James Howard said on Apr 18, 2001 at 09:31:56: > > What other character pairs are there? I flipped through a couple books > > and only found "fi". > fl, ff, ffi, ffl. But Adobe fonts seem to include only fi and fl. > > I can live without the other ligatures, but "fi" without a ligature > looks really ugly to me in many fonts (like times roman) -- the clash > between the top of the "f" and the dot of the "i" is jarring. And "ffi" > with only the last "fi" ligatured looks ugly too. Get the expert collection for the font in question; they usually contain all those goodies. As well as nice things like non-lining figures and proper small caps sets. > I think it would be really neat if some future office suite > used a properly ligatured "ffi" in its logo.... So do I, but I'd put money on MS losing the desktop first. The desktop publishing revolution has pretty much killed good typographic practice. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message