From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 00:53:36 2005 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D6016A4CE for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:53:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7AC43D41 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:53:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0Q0rUD00480; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:53:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Message-Id: <200501260053.j0Q0rUD00480@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: gert.cuykens@gmail.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:53:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <ef60af0905012515354e3fc030@mail.gmail.com> from "Gert Cuykens" at Jan 26, 2005 12:35:32 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu> cc: "Donald J. O'Neill" <donaldj1066@fastmail.fm> cc: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Warren <shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Subject: Re: perl and ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 00:53:36 -0000 > > > Let me get this straight. You're not a developer, so you don't know > > languages or how to code. Yet you're completely convinced that perl is > > insecure and should never be used anywhere, and you're equally convinced > > that no developer should be using it for their programs. > > > > Is that about right? > > No i dont know anything about c++ or perl, ok i know what a class is :P > For me is not realy about perl it self its about the way it get used > as a tool to help build things. For me freebsd is build as a base that > can handle everything designed for it. If application need something > to help it build, it should belong to the base and not to a external > perl tool. So, then the only acceptable way to develop something for FreeBSD is to hand toggle in machine code?? I really think the developer should have a good set of tools at hand that enable creation of a quality product. Perl is very good for certain types of scripting and leads to something actually getting developed rather than just thought about forever. Actually, although I have read the rational for removing Perl from the base, I am rather sorry to see it go. Now, I will have to add one more port at every install, kind of a big one too. We use Perl quite a bit here. > So if want to (install) buy a car and go to the (ports) shop i dont > expect to bring my (perl) wrench to the (ports) shop . No, you expect a competent shop to have the tool and know how to use it. Otherwise you wouldn't take your car there. ////jerry > > > Bad analogy. A better one would go something like this. When you buy a > > new television, you expect that the manufacturer used the best and most > > efficient techniques to build it. Yet, without any knowledge of why the > > manufacturer used those techniques, you think he was wrong to use them and > > he should change. > > > > What's wrong with this picture? > > nothing wrong with that, like i said i am only asking questions. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >