From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 11:43:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84732B9B00A for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darkuranium@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x236.google.com (mail-lf0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CFF71F69 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darkuranium@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l69so36300202lfg.1 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:43:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=N+cbm3XvZHBza0CLjAZwc7WGyzNz1go+LcphYNCu2Xo=; b=VMCcLIMcGodOR6iPVKn4lXEUZs4D/QyEaj/p7PH/optbocA8AfH0mgvH2Fk8S6ZMDB w65+m8MRrfgsw39HccuLwWakA+HDvXvJbwNr0flSffvav6z6H4KvxHJlsclgbJlxcM4X NzDu9CfYrBmF8rNG0ygW6UcmDRz3yscpyiA9OXOD0Sjrkb6A36mHYkvUjT9C7QMWRv9P 4ILzsZElktjy7nVYpZ41XstoAckNSN9kvBt/n0GjMrLEf+OthKXVXoX2T5U3l/j8BEB4 i5Yz2QjGdhXbxCdujdAUBT2IIJhC8TrSZOL61gdlcOTP1YVx9KihCyr47O//aew/5ouF B/7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=N+cbm3XvZHBza0CLjAZwc7WGyzNz1go+LcphYNCu2Xo=; b=h9paAA2BPyCoAoZWQUp2F8B9reFAxVDaELDGFr1TL6/EflvGzdzZK+1RhMEIjb43KX iv8Tx6DAR3gAet8LFC1PevFXdu45ohcP0PATmGHJBsFtPf2NKv4ETDY2zngdG/wFLfA3 7U+C55UZ4awDppHhrEvaQVygkHeQPX5sGVWHgr3L1ox3lNpoaQy7GcyjcJmYiy4XUCG0 8O9p8FzSJZGggxvsjTbhHi8w0G1b+uV0y5sNrAB9Z851+tMYvF7bb8U+rtCcuRwtso3g fruOftRZISgj2zPigmmfVySmiDTsC/T/0E2hHOje56FUxWvn41E9SPcO3ROdHBsYK/8m QvSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tL1qrG09dFn9vvtPEQ+wzjQVtZCvkTcexeqSqGscuqyF8VHI5jYStJDGMZ0hasEtq7kLeK4abqWJrkfPg== X-Received: by 10.25.139.135 with SMTP id n129mr22427861lfd.111.1469015022768; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:43:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.160.201 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:43:42 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?B?VGltIMSMYXM=?= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:43:42 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: UTF-8 by default? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:43:45 -0000 Hello! I've just joined this list, so I apologize if this has been discussed before. Today in #freebsd on FreeNode, I've asked whether there was any particular reason why UTF-8 wasn't the default in FreeBSD yet. What followed was a small discussion regarding this, and it seems that there's a good number of people who'd like to see that done. One mentioned that 11 would be the perfect opportunity to make this switch (although I understand it might be too late by now --- maybe 12.0?). It would definitely help internationalization (I was half-considering posting this to freebsd-i18n list instead, but then I figured this one would be more appropriate), and I can't see *that* much of a reason not to use it. So, without further ado: 1) What are the reasons that UTF-8 isn't the default yet? 2) Would it be possible to make this the default in 11.0? What about 12.0? 3) Assuming an effort is started towards making UTF-8 the default, what changes would be required?