From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 22 22:47:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A3216A404 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dugger@hotlz.com) Received: from www.hotlz.com (freedom.hotlz.com [209.20.218.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE5D43D45 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:47:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dugger@hotlz.com) Received: from [172.27.240.45] (henry.local.hotlz.com [172.27.240.45]) by www.hotlz.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k3MMlkAA028005; Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dugger@hotlz.com) Message-ID: <444AB293.40809@hotlz.com> Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:47:47 -0700 From: Don Dugger User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <44490663.3040506@hotlz.com> <86d5f9pno8.fsf@xps.des.no> <444A652E.5010403@kanga.org> <864q0lplro.fsf@xps.des.no> <444A9DE6.4070203@hotlz.com> <86ejzpntn6.fsf@xps.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86ejzpntn6.fsf@xps.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= Subject: Re: Why is not more FreeBSD software written in C++? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:47:52 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >Don Dugger writes: > > >>Not that any of this really matter's, but this was not the way I >>remembered it happening so I did a little looking. Bjarne Stroustrup >>says in his book "The C++ Programming Language" Third Edition (I >>think he had something do with c++) on page 11 that the ISO standard >>was taken from the ANSI standard and "From 1990, these joint C++ >>standards committees have been the main forum for the evolution of >>C++ and the refinement of its of its definition." >> >> > >Exactly. C and C++ have been in ISO's hands since 1990, so for the >past 16 years, ANSI has had no involvement in their development other >than to rubberstamp what ISO produces. > > > So if c++ isn't all that good it's ISO fault not ANSI? Why is this so important to you. You don't really believe that all the engineer in the US simply don't care what's it the standard and have no input at all. That HP and IBM and SUN and Microsoft and and and .... just sit here and say what ever you want ISO we don't care. Well that doesn't sound like the corporate world I know. Nor does that sound like the guys at FSF. But I will admit I complain about the decision and do thing myself. >>BTW where's Bjarne from? In the book he mentions Murray Hill, New >>Jersey but with that name I think he from somewhere else. >> >> > >He is Danish. Murray Hill, NJ is the location of AT&T Labs, where he >works. > >DES > > I know where AT&T *was*. Don 8)