From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 15:58:20 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E460737B401 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C60B43FBF for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (kensmith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h5AMwJbr012212; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5AMwJfJ012211; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:58:19 -0400 From: Ken Smith To: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <20030610225819.GA11960@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <20030610164328.GD2099@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <200306101848.h5AImAVt006033@lurza.secnetix.de> <20030610212022.GB14325@ns1.xcllnt.net> <20030610213812.GB10251@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20030610223657.GA15071@ns1.xcllnt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030610223657.GA15071@ns1.xcllnt.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org cc: Ken Smith cc: Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 5.1 Released! X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:58:21 -0000 On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 03:36:57PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > I may be stepping on toes here, but what about just taking control? I made the offer of helping to Scott Long because he was the one who seemed to step up with the pre-Release-Time upload of the stuff with permissions closed down, which is the first step needed for any of this stuff to work. I don't mind taking control but doing that right requires access to more than can just be taken - some of it needs to be given. Using the ISC example again, adding in a new mirror like that requires DNS modifications, they need to be granted access to ftp-master, etc. I'm capable of that (been a sys-admin for quite a while :-) but I don't have the access required. And giving that kind of access is nothing to be taken lightly. I might really be capable of all that but I also might be Bill Gates plotting the downfall of FreeBSD and giving me that kind of access would make it possible. I'm not sure what to do about that, most of the activities I could engage myself in to help gain that kind of trust have nothing to do with the mirror system... I'm not even a blessed first-tier mirror, I'm just a lurker who carries FreeBSD along with a bunch of other stuff (some of which I am an official mirror for, I'm on the mirror lists for Mandrake, RedHat, and OpenBSD amongst a few other things). > Is this too naive a viewpoint? Well, slightly but I suppose it's a start. :-) -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel |