From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 27 17:06:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B49FC2E for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF1B6A75 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s2RH67Dm054793 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:06:07 GMT (envelope-from bdrewery@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from bdrewery@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id s2RH67sn054785 for svn-ports-head@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:06:07 GMT (envelope-from bdrewery) Received: (qmail 62312 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2014 12:06:05 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO roundcube.xk42.net) (10.10.5.5) by sweb.xzibition.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2014 12:06:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:06:05 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery To: marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r347539 - in head: biology/genpak biology/rasmol cad/chipmunk databases/typhoon databases/xmbase-grok devel/asl devel/flick devel/happydoc devel/ixlib devel/p5-Penguin-Easy editors/axe ... Organization: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <533457BF.8010204@marino.st> References: <201403082226.s28MQMtI079354@svn.freebsd.org> <20140327111602.GA57802@FreeBSD.org> <20140327130726.GD93483@FreeBSD.org> <8db20343037cfedce85801350a12fe4d@shatow.net> <5334555F.70806@marino.st> <8e44422e3b6932b6eaaa15d31737b342@shatow.net> <533457BF.8010204@marino.st> Message-ID: X-Sender: bdrewery@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.5 Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev , Antoine Brodin , svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:06:08 -0000 On 2014-03-27 11:54, John Marino wrote: > On 3/27/2014 17:48, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> On 2014-03-27 11:44, John Marino wrote: >>> On 3/27/2014 17:39, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>>> >>>> I agree completely with you. I don't understand why we remove ports >>>> that >>>> are working perfectly fine, except where broken or no upstream and >>>> there >>>> are security concerns. As a user I hate this. I still want older gcc >>>> and >>>> tcl. Portage has *32* versions of GCC while we have 4. For me, >>>> picking a >>>> development platform is all about which packages are available to >>>> test >>>> the portability of my code. >>> >>> To be pedantic, you are neglecting my work: >>> lang/gnat-aux (expiring) >>> lang/gcc47-aux >>> lang/gcc49-aux >>> lang/gnatdroid-armv5 >>> lang/gnatdroid-armv7 >>> >>> so that's 5 more right off the bat. And they differ from the vanilla >>> lang/gccXX, otherwise they could be combined. >>> >> >> I don't care or know what those are. I only care about the main GCC >> ports in my count. I also did not include the ADA gcc compiler in my >> portage count. > > Well, then you are being ingenuous. Three of those ports compile C, > C++, Fortran and ObjC in addition to Ada. In many use cases, they are > more powerful than the "main" compilers of the same version. They > different count as a legitimate versions of gcc. The latter are cross > compilers to android, so yes, non-ada users should be interested -- I > would count them. > > John You are not adding to this discussion. I take offense to you accusing me of being disingenuous as well. * dev-lang/gnat-gcc Available versions: (3.4) 3.4.6 (4.1) 4.1.2 (4.2) 4.2.3 (4.3) *4.3.2 ~*4.3.3 4.3.5 ~4.3.6 (4.4) ~4.4.3 ~4.4.5 ~4.4.7 (4.5) ~4.5.4 {nls} Homepage: http://gcc.gnu.org/ Description: GNAT Ada Compiler - gcc version [UD] sys-devel/gcc Available versions: (2.95) ~*2.95.3-r10!s (3.1) *3.1.1-r2 (3.2) **3.2.2!s *3.2.3-r4 (3.3) (~)3.3.6-r1!s (3.4) 3.4.6-r2!s (4.0) ~*4.0.4!s (4.1) 4.1.2!s (4.2) (~)4.2.4-r1!s (4.3) (~)4.3.3-r2!s 4.3.4!s (~)4.3.5!s 4.3.6-r1!s (4.4) (~)4.4.2!s (~)4.4.3-r3!s 4.4.4-r2!s 4.4.5!s 4.4.6-r1!s 4.4.7!s (4.5) (~)4.5.1-r1!s (~)4.5.2!s 4.5.3-r2!s 4.5.4!s (4.6) (~)4.6.0!s (~)4.6.1-r1!s (~)4.6.2!s 4.6.3!s (~)4.6.4!s (4.7) (~)4.7.0!s (~)4.7.1!s (~)4.7.2-r1!s (~)4.7.3!s (4.8) **4.8.0!s **4.8.1!s {altivec bootstrap boundschecking build cxx d doc fixed-point fortran gcj go graphite gtk hardened ip28 ip32r10k java libssp lto mudflap multilib multislot n32 n64 nls nopie nossp nptl objc objc++ objc-gc openmp regression-test static vanilla} Installed versions: 4.5.3-r2(4.5)!s(05:37:02 PM 01/18/2012)(cxx doc mudflap multilib nls nptl openmp -altivec -bootstrap -build -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -graphite -gtk -hardened -libffi -libssp -lto -multislot -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla) 4.8.2(4.8)!s(04:43:17 PM 02/28/2014)(cxx doc multilib nls nptl openmp -altivec -awt -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -go -graphite -hardened -libssp -mudflap -multislot -nopie -nossp -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -regression-test -vanilla) Homepage: http://gcc.gnu.org/ Description: The GNU Compiler Collection *I am not counting gcc-aux as it is not comparable to the count from portage main gcc*. I am only counting the main official gcc ports. Note gcc gnat is also an entirely separate thing. I don't know what GCC-AUX is and it's still not part of the 34* count from portage there on gcc alone. GCC-AUX: http://www.dragonlace.net/ That's not official GCC, it's a derivative. I commend and thank you for your work, but it's not part of my point. -- Regards, Bryan Drewery