From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 1 00:57:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E922C10656C7 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B348FC0C for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 00:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.193]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477D35C21 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 11:02:48 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4D1E7B40.7010608@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 10:54:24 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101227 Thunderbird/3.0.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D1E061E.9070306@mgwigglesworth.net> <4D1E68BA.9080001@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4D1E74B5.8030100@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <4D1E78D9.6090103@mgwigglesworth.net> In-Reply-To: <4D1E78D9.6090103@mgwigglesworth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How can I implement true vps with FreeBSD as a host? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 00:57:55 -0000 On 01/01/11 10:44, Martes G Wigglesworth wrote: > > On 12/31/2010 07:26 PM, Da Rock wrote: >> Have you checked into Xen specifically and how it works? > I am currently researching how Xen works. I am finding the top-level > information a bit lacking in low-level information. > > I came across the website with all the objects for Xen, however, I > have yet to find implementation or developer information, so I still > have some digging to do, obviously. > > I have downloaded the pdf information, however, I have not gotten far > enough into the docs to figure out what is actually needed to have Xen > function as it should on FreeBSD. > > I am also researching the different types or products to figure out > what should be my target for the most investigation. >> I think you're where I was at a while ago, and a little investigation >> will >> change your mind.FWIW Xen is a hypervisor, and platforms need to be >> able to run in it, not the other way around. Have a read up on it >> anyway. > > I am still premature in my research of this platform, so I am still > trying to figure out what is done by the Xen implementation that is > not within the indigenous OS. (I assume that it encapsulates > environments as would be needed for true virtual private services.) > > Thanks for the dialogue, I am still very much premature in my research > of this "virtualization appliance" project that I thought up for my > environment, and it is nice to see some feedback. > Have you checked the Xen site? Its actually a Citrix product if that helps. It gets confusing I know- check out wikipedia as well. That will help I think. And the Xen site (if I remember correctly) is designed with EU's- in mind not high-level CTO's jargon. For a start though, something like VMWare and VirtualBox run as an app on a host (like FBSD). Xen actually runs on the hardware and the guests run on it. Hence the only project for FreeBSD is for dom0- as special emulated cpu on Xen. Thats why Xen usually gets rated faster- its not actually on an OS because it is one. Thats classified as a type 1. The others have to go through the host OS first to get something, so it slows them down just a bit, though the kernel modules help that quite a bit. HTH clear the fog a bit :) But definitely check out the Xen site- you can even download the iso to test.