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Date:      Mon, 16 Oct 1995 12:34:15 +0300 (MSK)
From:      =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su>
To:        FreeBSD hackers <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>, Joerg Wunsch <joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de>
Subject:   Re: A couple problems in FreeBSD 2.1.0-950922-SNAP
Message-ID:  <mZNSYWm8lI@ache.dialup.demos.ru>
In-Reply-To: <199510160744.IAA24308@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from J Wunsch at Mon, 16 Oct 1995 08:44:04 %2B0100 (MET)
References:  <199510160744.IAA24308@uriah.heep.sax.de>

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In message <199510160744.IAA24308@uriah.heep.sax.de> J Wunsch writes:

>As =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= wrote:
>> 
>> >You misunderstood me.  I was thinking of an explicit setlocale()
>> >inside all system utilities (except daemons) that use <ctype.h>.
>> 
>> 1) Too match sources will be changed cause troubles with patches
>> and upgrades.

>That doesn't count.  The base utilities aren't being upgraded that
>often.

And all ports utilities need to be upgraded too...

>> 3) It is useful only for <=8bit locales, so you can't call setlocale,
>> multichars becomes damaged, you need to call reduced to 8bit
>> setlocale version as done in crt0.
>> 4) Using non-standard (non-POSIX/ANSI/etc) reduced setlocale in
>> all sources cause portability problems.

>Ah, i didn't knew that our locale support ain't complete yet.  I was
>under the impression that the LC_CTYPE part was already ok.

LC_CTYPE part _is_ already ok and because of it 'ls' with setlocale()
from main() for Japanese LANG becomes broken right now.

I repeat one again:
1) setlocale() is aware of multi-byte LANGs.
2) ls and other utilities not aware of multi-byte LANGs and becomes
very broken because assumes that char type == char.

1) and 2) isn't purposes to not have correct ctype for ls
if your charset is <= 8bit. My hack do it.
For multi-byte LANGs ls and others stays to ASCII in my hack
and don't becomes broken.
-- 
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