From owner-freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Mon Sep 28 16:03:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkg@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9511A0A40D for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C96F12F9 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D7B2191C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:03:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=CG4hZJ53LuXRH6T +qWbYVVUoNDE=; b=MXKwewPFnay62xuDebULA/QeW16/JWk1utkoBKbCqy0LRq/ pm0nLZNkbQiSPqZdFngGBTSr3rGRc9NtvqU4dItOOHEW1KO5nw5catV75qYYv3ky cKba0uBVJJKmGpV0oeQ/imzFmPTSevxJG1uXokO8dRw0SqJ6aw+ESEPRVSGY= Received: by web3.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 23C76102C7A; Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1443456215.1792119.395576609.40D265B8@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: A/TW8DgduqnuWHDHxnMI4KO9qRiA52O56xfQSM24Hfv/ 1443456215 From: Mark Felder To: Jeffrey Bouquet , freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-f5bf1cf6 Subject: Re: Eventually a must-have pkg feature missing... Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:03:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1443017533.86115.YahooMailBasic@web140901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1443017533.86115.YahooMailBasic@web140901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:03:36 -0000 On Wed, Sep 23, 2015, at 09:12, Jeffrey Bouquet via freebsd-ports wrote: > Compounding the problem: > The machine here is usually not running during the nightly pkg backup. > You've described a key reason* launchd was created in OSX and why people want it imported into FreeBSD. It offers a plethora of features including the ability to intelligently decide when to run background jobs -- especially based on system activity and availability. You can't reliably do this with cron jobs; they're too simplistic. I don't know if launchd in base will ever happen, but if it does it would be great to integrate pkg. * This is described in greater detail in the following BAFUG talk: http://www.nextbsd.org/jordan-hubbard-visits-bafug/ -- Mark Felder ports-secteam member feld@FreeBSD.org