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Content-Language: en-US To: Mario Marietto Cc: Matthew Grooms , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, Elena Mihailescu , Mihai Carabas References: <7CCEC16E-41A1-4318-B953-EF61D17EEE3C@mit.edu> <2f69f9a1-e976-65d6-c0be-74404640d1c1@shrew.net> <08360ee6-6829-5362-8188-cdbd2c20e59b@bsdio.com> <9aacad10-01c1-a0b5-a2de-32abf670feec@bsdio.com> From: Rebecca Cran In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4QLwJF4YdCz3Qd3 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19151, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hmm, the Jetson Orin does appear to support virtualization and apparently people have had success with KVM under Linux. I'm wondering how well-supported FreeBSD would be on it since it still uses FDT, and trying to boot Linux using ACPI instead didn't go well. I have an Orin Development Kit here I could try. If FreeBSD boots on it, then I can start working on bhyve before my Ampere system gets here. -- Rebecca Cran On 5/17/23 05:33, Mario Marietto wrote: > oh my god. That's such a nice toy to play with. Too much expensive for > my pockets. I'm making experiences with cheaper socs like the tegra > ones,jetson nano and maybe in the next future,the jetson orin. Do you > think that if I buy the jetson orin,I could be able to help you,anyway ? > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 2:11 PM Rebecca Cran wrote: > > I'm getting the Ampere Developer Kit from > https://www.ipi.wiki/products/com-hpc-ampere-altra . > > > -- > > Rebecca Cran > > > On 5/16/23 10:14, Mario Marietto wrote: > > Hello Rebecca, > > > > i will be happy to help you. what system you will buy ? i want to > > evaluate the cost. If it is affordable for me I will also buy > the same > > and i could test your code or something else task that you need. > i ve > > been always interested in the bhyve development. > > > > Il mar 16 mag 2023, 17:41 Rebecca Cran ha > scritto: > > > >     On 5/15/23 13:58, Matthew Grooms wrote: > > > >     > On 5/15/2023 2:39 PM, John F Carr wrote: > >     >> Is there any active work on getting bhyve virtualization > >     working on > >     >> 64 bit ARM?  I see some work was started a few years ago > (e.g. > >     >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D26976, > >     >> https://bhyvecon.org/bhyvecon2016-Mihai.pdf). It seems to > have > >     been > >     >> abandoned or at least stalled. > >     >> > >     >> I may be able to help.  It's not a project I can take on > myself. > >     > > >     > Porting bhyve to arm has been one of the longest running UPB > >     projects. > >     > You can find more info on the history here ... > >     > > >     > > > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/DevSummit/202303?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Presentation+-+bhyvecon.pdf > > >    >   > > > > >     > > >     > > >     > Your best bet is probably to take a look a the following > review > >     opened > >     > by Andrew Turner late last year. His work is based on the > original > >     > port by the UPB team ... > >     > > >     > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37428 > >     > > >     > I can't speak to the current state of this work. From what I > >     recall, > >     > there were several attempts made by UPB to collaborate, > but they > >     > failed to get a response. Perhaps he/they can chime in > here with > >     more > >     > detail. > > > >     I'll be getting an Ampere system in the next few weeks and > hope to be > >     able to work on the Aarch64 bhyve code. > > > > > >     -- > > > >     Rebecca Cran > > > > > > > > -- > Mario.