From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 18 14:57:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB92816A41F for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:57:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from avs3.arnes.si (avs3.arnes.si [193.2.1.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AC343D53 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:57:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Received: from localhost (avs3.arnes.si [193.2.1.68]) by avs3.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EF81D7CD1; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:57:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from avs3.arnes.si ([193.2.1.68]) by localhost (avs3.arnes.si [193.2.1.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39584-05; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:57:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from xmail.homelinux.net (cmb16-74.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.51.74]) by avs3.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94051D7CE8; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:57:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.10.249] ([192.168.10.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by xmail.homelinux.net (8.13.5/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBIE70D1012201; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:07:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sasa@stupar.homelinux.net) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:07:09 +0100 From: Sasa Stupar To: Ted Mittelstaedt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <498C0455BE5AC9573152FE62@[192.168.10.249]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.87.1, clamav-milter version 0.87 on mig29.workgroup X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si Cc: Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:57:18 -0000 Nothing. From the GUI view it is at 0% of utilisation. Sasa --On 18. december 2005 3:51 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt =20 wrote: > > what does the CPU of the router do when your doing that? > > Ted > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sasa Stupar >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:00 AM >> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >> Song) >> >> >> >> >> --On 18. december 2005 2:32 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt >> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sasa Stupar >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 2:21 AM >>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >>>> Theme Song) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --On 18. december 2005 1:33 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:25 AM >>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson >>>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >>>>>> Theme Song) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --On 16. december 2005 3:36 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net] >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:34 AM >>>>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson >>>>>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >>>>>>>> Theme Song) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and >>>>>> without polling: >>>>>>>> ************** >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >>>>>>>> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with >>>>>>>> 192.168.1.200 port 5001 >>>>>>>> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >>>>>>>> [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 108 MBytes 90.1 Mbits/sec >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I disable this option then my transfer is worse: >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >>>>>>>> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with >>>>>>>> 192.168.1.200 port 5001 >>>>>>>> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >>>>>>>> [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 69.7 MBytes 58.4 Mbits/sec >>>>>>>> *************** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what are the cpu speeds and operating systems of all devices >>>>>>> in the packet path, what is the make and model of switchs in >>>>>>> use, provide dmesg output of the bsd box, a network diagram >>>>>>> of the setup, etc. etc. etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The above test results are not replicatable and thus, worthless. >>>>>>> Useful test results would allow a reader to build an exact >>>>>>> duplicate of your setup, config it identically, and get identical >>>>>>> results. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OK. The server (192.168.1.200) is FreeBSD 5.4 with Duron 900 >>>> and 3C905C >>>>> >>>>> The 3com 3c905 is not a very good card under FreeBSD the driver was >>>>> written >>>>> without support from 3com and is shakey on a lot of >> hardware. I would >>>>> say >>>>> there's a big question that your server is actually saturating the >>>>> ethernet. >>>>> Probably that is why your only getting 90Mbt. >>>>> >>>>>> NIC; router is m0n0wall (FreeBSD 4.11) with three Intel >>>>>> Pro/100S Nics and >>>>>> Celeron 433; The user computer (192.168.10.249) is Celeron 2400 >>>>>> with winxp >>>>>> and integrated NIC Realtek 8139 series. Switch is CNET CNSH-1600. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Once again, the winxp+realtek 8139 is not a particularly >>>> steller combo, >>>>> I would question that this system could saturate the >> ethernet, either. >>>>> >>>>>> Diagram: >>>>>> >>>>>> dmesg from the router: >>>>>> ---------------- >>>>>> $ dmesg >>>>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. >>>>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, >>>> 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. >>>>>> FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p11 #0: Wed Sep 7 13:49:09 CEST 2005 >>>>>> root@fb411.neon1.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/M0N0WALL_GENERIC >>>>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz >>>>>> CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (434.32-MHz 686-class CPU) >>>>>> Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x665 Stepping =3D 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> Features=3D0x183f9ff>>>>> GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR> >>>>>> real memory =3D 201326592 (196608K bytes) >>>>>> avail memory =3D 179142656 (174944K bytes) >>>>>> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc1006000. >>>>>> Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot" at 0xc100609c. >>>>>> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled >>>>>> md0: Preloaded image 11534336 bytes at 0xc0504d9c >>>>>> md1: Malloc disk >>>>>> Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdef0 >>>>>> npx0: on motherboard >>>>>> npx0: INT 16 interface >>>>>> pcib0: on motherboard >>>>>> pci0: on pcib0 >>>>>> pcib1: at device >>>>>> 1.0 on pci0 >>>>>> pci1: on pcib1 >>>>>> isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 >>>>>> isa0: on isab0 >>>>>> atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at >>>>>> device 7.1 on >>>>>> pci0 >>>>>> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 >>>>>> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 >>>>>> uhci0: port >>>>>> 0xd000-0xd01f irq 11 >>>>>> at device 7.2 on pci0 >>>>>> usb0: on uhci0 >>>>>> usb0: USB revision 1.0 >>>>>> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 >>>>>> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered >>>>>> chip1: port >>>>>> 0x5000-0x500f at >>>>>> device 7.3 on pci0 >>>>>> pci0: (vendor=3D0x1274, dev=3D0x1371) at 8.0 irq 11 >>>>>> fxp0: port 0xd800-0xd83f mem >>>>>> 0xd0400000-0xd041ffff,0xd0460000-0xd0460fff irq 10 at device >>>>>> 15.0 on pci0 >>>>>> fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:62:f6:06 >>>>>> inphy0: on miibus0 >>>>>> inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>>>>> fxp1: port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem >>>>>> 0xd0420000-0xd043ffff,0xd0462000-0xd0462fff irq 12 at device >>>>>> 16.0 on pci0 >>>>>> fxp1: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:9c:2a:16 >>>>>> inphy1: on miibus1 >>>>>> inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>>>>> fxp2: port 0xe000-0xe03f mem >>>>>> 0xd0440000-0xd045ffff,0xd0461000-0xd0461fff irq 7 at device >>>> 19.0 on pci0 >>>>>> fxp2: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:8c:e4:f6 >>>>>> inphy2: on miibus2 >>>>>> inphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>>>>> pmtimer0 on isa0 >>>>>> fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq >>>>>> 2 on isa0 >>>>>> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold >>>>>> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 >>>>>> atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 >>>>>> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 >>>>>> sio0: type 16550A, console >>>>>> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 >>>>>> BRIDGE 020214 loaded >>>>>> IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. >>>>>> IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default =3D block all, >>>> Logging =3D enabled >>>>>> ad0: 3098MB [6296/16/63] at ata0-master PIO4 >>>>>> acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 >>>>>> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c >>>>>> fxp1: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 >>>>>> fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 >>>>>> fxp2: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 >>>>>> ata0: resetting devices .. done >>>>>> ------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need more just ask for it. You don't need to be >> angry. Peace. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OK, next question: >>>>> >>>>> ftp transfer like this uses large packets, rerun the test >> with ping -f >>>>> with different ping packet sizes, post the results. >>>>> >>>>> Remember, routers have to deal with many sized packets. >>>>> >>>>> Ted >>>>> >>>> >>>> Interesting. I have tested like you've said and I could ping >>>> with packet >>>> size 1450 bytes. Everything bigger is telling that "packet must be >>>> fragmented but DF is set up". This is of course pinging from winxp to >>>> server. >>> >>> That is normal since under winxp ping sets the DF bit I believe. >>> >>> The larger packets are not what matters, the smaller packets are more >>> interesting. I find it hard to believe your getting the same >> throughput >>> with >>> flood pinging with 56 byte packets. >>> >>> Ted >>> >> >> Here is the output: >> ------------- >> C:\Documents and Settings\nathsasa>ping -t -f -l 56 mig29 >> >> Preverjanje dosegljivosti mig29.workgroup [192.168.1.200] z 56 B podatk >> >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=3D56 =E8as < 1 ms TTL=3D63 >> >> Statistika preverjanja dosegljivosti za 192.168.1.200: >> Paketov: Poslanih =3D 46, Prejetih =3D 46, Izgubljenih =3D 0 (0% = izguba), >> Povpre=E8ni =E8as v milisekundah: >> Minimum =3D 0ms, Maksimum =3D 0ms, Povpre=E8je =3D 0ms >> ----------- >> >> It's in my native language but the position is the same as in english. >> >> -- >> Sasa Stupar >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: >> 12/16/2005 >> > --=20 Sasa Stupar