From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 9 17:37:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f31.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9190337B65D; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:36:58 -0800 Received: from 216.228.161.21 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:36:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.228.161.21] From: "Samantha Hamon" To: sil@antioffline.com, wk633@victoria.tc.ca Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 01:36:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2001 01:36:58.0180 (UTC) FILETIME=[F50B9040:01C09301] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oh yes, It is email like this that reminds me why I remain on this mailing list. :) >From: sil@antioffline.com >To: Richard Wilson >CC: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: your mail >Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:27:18 -0800 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])by >mail.bendnet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/BendNet) with ESMTP id f1A0Rpf34878for >; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:27:52 -0800 (PST) >Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18])by >mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTPid 0471F6E2A61; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 >16:27:45 -0800 (PST) >Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538)id A461937B69D; Fri, > 9 Feb 2001 16:27:43 -0800 (PST) >Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])by hub.freebsd.org >(Postfix) with SMTPid B2F4B2E81BD; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:27:42 -0800 (PST) >Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:27:42 >-0800 >Received: from eris.siliconinc.net (eris.siliconinc.net [209.209.49.200])by >hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D67837B69Bfor >; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:27:21 -0800 (PST) >Received: (qmail 6068 invoked by uid 1004); 10 Feb 2001 00:27:18 -0000 >Return-Path: >Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Message-ID: <20010209162718.A21618@antioffline.com> >References: >User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i >In-Reply-To: ; from >wk633@victoria.tc.ca on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 04:05:21PM -0800 >X-Operating-System: OpenBSD 2.8 i386 >Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Precedence: bulk >Status: > > > I'm probably not the first to point out (or if I am, I'm only the first >to > > be stupid enough to spend the time) the following from > > http://www.openbsd.org/ports.html: > >Can't we all just get along. First off the advisories we're jokes I made >with friends and I never sent them out, or did I? Wouldn't make a >difference >anyways so here's my take. > >Your pointing out something I already know and I am speaking for myself >and not some OpenBSD cause. FYI I use FBSD at work since it supports >multi processors and has some features that Open doesn't. However 4 CD's >filled with stuff that I could give a rats (let me be polite) anus about >is outrageous. Its no wonder why Free is on record pace to release a slew >of advisories. > >Listen I poke fun at everybody including OpenBSD its just my website's >irreverent way of making geeks laugh when there's not much else to read >about and their getting sick of the bull (let me be nice again) crap >posted on sites like Slashdot and DaemonNews. > >THEY ARE JOKES NO NEED TO GET BENT OUT OF SHAPE like that hermophradite >luser named Kitana who jumped in #openbsd on IRC and had an attack as if >the world was coming to an end. > > > > > "The ports & packages collection does NOT go through the thorough >security > > audit that OpenBSD follows. Although we strive to keep the quality of >the > > packages collection high, we just do not have enough human resources to > > ensure the same level of robustness and security." > >Can you post this in Swedish for me my enlish no too good > > > > > So, serious question, how do you know there are no trojans on YOUR > > servers? Do you audit the source? Or do you trust Theo & Co to >'strive'? > > Or do you run with the default install? > > > >Uh as a matter of fact, my server is a default install of Open behind a >Nokia IP650 with IPF still used between hosts along with Checkpoint's >rules with daemons piped through stunnel. I do go through most of the >things I install on my network. So the answer is yes, no here is one for >you, would you trust your network with an OS that has had more advisories >than crappier OS' (Windows) for the year? > >J. Oquendo >sil@disgraced.org http://www.disgraced.org >sil@antioffline.com http://www.antioffline.com > >A student once said: "When I was a Buddhist, it drove >my parents and friends crazy, but when I am a buddha, >nobody is upset at all." > >JON KABAT-ZINN, WHEREVER YOU GO THERE YOU ARE ><< attach3 >> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message