From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 12 03:36:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F05348F6 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 03:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm6-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm6-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.214]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9ADF11F23 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 03:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.176] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2014 03:34:12 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.147] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2014 03:34:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2014 03:34:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bellsouth.net; s=s1024; t=1389497652; bh=mRscQzLFLwLOhKbwlGvyH/e+iTMwu9jAqQsgCHXc2rw=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:Date:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject; b=B4wjt9jB5qlo8tcknYsxZVOrmzk0hnIQr1CTWrzbjxhdSRjG9i6rbIe68R5uKN2Vc6SfSehbuPOWCIXxCh4tqCVlSy6YRH97zuVDWEuxfRvVjku17ETqX9Cf9kn9c+M/IVhJI2Z23obOFIzTFctC2avvhBbnzwZuj8ng0+/6og4= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 569454.16331.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Message-ID: <569454.16331.bm@smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 03:34:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Y88Ey8UVM1l3Km3aqDnVEddWCwbqlBGPGvutSsMxcgD8H12 xjUurHyC_b65RAoaEyRcvXw12JrQpVSEEjSNWoqYBJsTsB_oCaWyilq3.GL6 _y6A0m.UVshfm9O9SRwS1jwb2aJMoEcxWMB11tuLjWqNCyC.zCgU4CUsIt85 8RwbdHhpOtZM2fJpj9eiEJ59nOu9w8bSJkJVaRGzRYXSZq77D31TJnQA3Ayo c7QnOwP.ZhuVxCqANIvpDKCoG80_VXojzJ3TmKuqXtxvvLSzpdS0D4BJuUQP Yp4bBl63m2CeZrWa590N1I9aBjLGRGJFuh_pl_UiNYGZFUaK8bp8Rkt8yeJe aMnUu9nLeydYvIV_NZ_2OdyoVXYZTiSkzzGNk4uI60te50.houbIHxz_PRu1 ABZpe18KEN4Q2Hj6TswPRyrbU1UpjXw4N5zfb1HmLAByCH_ZgDPKyes.n05v tN67OyJEOErwrqol4Udsh4oGhd6mlU1ULhLP4f504Y6qwC2WVm_3CQ9pxAWy SNq0L1OGZDdZ3jXd.lSAmqKKkMNigEtPrTO9xXhu9nB1RX8BWWrzSAUiHFvi X0kI_FHArMl5ix2w- X-Yahoo-SMTP: Kz_aW1.swBBYof3zAD7.RWzXz9ZAQVDMml1VADsbgPT4Kq79LC0- X-Rocket-Received: from localhost (mueller6724@96.28.178.143 with plain [67.195.15.66]) by smtp119.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jan 2014 03:34:12 +0000 UTC From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20140109161818.GK64543@glenbarber.us> <20140110114102.692560fe@X220.alogt.com> <1389468757.19126.69510893.3B8876F8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <0AD1CEB5-3291-43F7-B41E-2517A9DDE114@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC5 Now Available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 03:36:39 -0000 from Mark Felder : > I have a desktop at work with a flaky USB bus that disconnects my keyboard and mouse occasionally and the only reliable way to keep them connected is the recent devd hot plugging feature. I have or had that problem too, noticed on 10-prerelease but not on 9.2-STABLE or 11-HEAD. This raises doubts on whether 10-prerelease is stabler than 11-HEAD. I even had two instances of 10-prerelease installation crashing at a time of idleness and going into the db> prompt. I could upgrade 9.2-STABLE to 11-HEAD without going through 10.0. What seems to have helped was to add to /boot/loader.conf a line increasing the SCSI delay/timeout. Default is #kern.cam.scsi_delay="2000" # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI as found in /boot/defaults/loader.conf . I change 2000 to 10000 or more. Tom