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On 9/17/2025 00:07, Chris Ross wrote:<= span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">
On Sep 16, 2025, at 23:24,=
 Chris Ross <cross+freebsd@distal.com> wrote:

          
On Sep 15, 2025, at 15:05, Tom Pusateri <pusateri@keehole.org> w=
rote:

I would try running the 14.3p2 system without the VLAN configuration and =
a direct connection to the upstream provider hardware (no switch) and see=
 if the problem persists. That will determine if it=E2=80=99s a VLAN issu=
e.
That would be a bit of work.  I have an available ix port, so I can run a=
 line to the machine
without vlan. It would still be a VLAN in the switch, because running a d=
irect line is not
possible without much rewiring and very long cables.
So this is my next attempt.
So, reconfiguring this wasn=E2=80=99t as hard as I feared.  But, it=E2=80=
=99s not working.  I=E2=80=99m getting
an IPv4 address as before, surprisingly even the same one, on my ix1 inte=
rface.  I=E2=80=99ve
changed interface names in rc.conf, pf.conf, and dhcpcd.conf.  However, d=
hcpcd is now
doing something different.  Only changing the interface name in the confi=
g, I=E2=80=99m not sure
why.

Sep 16 23:47:34 [98787]: ix1: soliciting an IPv6 router
Sep 16 23:47:34 [98787]: ix1: sending Router Solicitation
Sep 16 23:47:34 [98787]: ix1: Router Advertisement from fe80::3e8a:b0ff:f=
e3e:4dce
Sep 16 23:47:34 [98787]: ix1: no global addresses for default route
Sep 16 23:47:34 [98787]: ix1: executing: /usr/local/libexec/dhcpcd-run-ho=
oks ROUTERADVERT
Sep 16 23:47:34 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 1.1 seconds
Sep 16 23:47:36 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 2.0 seconds
Sep 16 23:47:38 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 4.2 seconds
Sep 16 23:47:42 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 8.9 seconds
Sep 16 23:47:51 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 17.8 seconds
Sep 16 23:48:03 [98787]: timed out
Sep 16 23:48:03 [98492]: forked to background
Sep 16 23:48:09 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 37.9 seconds
Sep 16 23:48:47 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 71.2 seconds
Sep 16 23:49:58 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 142.0 seconds
Sep 16 23:52:20 [98787]: ix1: multicasting SOLICIT6 (xid 0x1e9737), next =
in 274.4 seconds

Where as before, when it was not getting the answer to NS, it was simply =
doing:

Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: soliciting an IPv6 router
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: sending Router Solicitation
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: Router Advertisement from fe80::3e8a:b0ff=
:fe3e:4dce
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: no global addresses for default route
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: lo0: adding reject route to 2600:4040:2c9d:5200:=
:/56 via ::1
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: executing: /usr/local/libexec/dhcpcd-run-=
hooks ROUTERADVERT
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: multicasting REBIND6 (xid 0x0a7d83), next=
 in 1.0 seconds
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: REPLY6 received from fe80::3e8a:b0ff:fe3e=
:4dce
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: renew in 3600, rebind in 5760, expire in =
7200 seconds
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: writing lease: /var/db/dhcpcd/vlan0.lease=
6
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: vlan0: delegated prefix 2600:4040:aaaa:bb00::/56=

Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: int1: adding address 2600:4040:aaaa:bb12::1/64
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: int1: pltime 7200 seconds, vltime 7200 seconds
Sep 15 14:00:58 [10047]: int1: waiting for DHCPv6 DAD to complete

Oh.  So with a new interface, dhcpcd isn=E2=80=99t trying to REBIND, so i=
t=E2=80=99s a different
process. I=E2=80=99m not seeing any response to the SOLICIT messages, but=
 I admit that I
wasn=E2=80=99t watching the DHCPv6 ports earlier, only the ICMP6, so this=
 may not be
new.

This is all for tonight.  I=E2=80=99ll try more tomorrow.  Thanks all for=
 your time.

- Chris

That is precisely what it was doing here when my ISP had a hissy-fit due to cached (on their end) association between the ONT/MAC/duid.

They said it would eventually clear (after their pltime expired -- about 2 weeks!) but obviously that's not really an answer; as soon as they "kicked it" on their end it came up immediately.

--
Karl Denninger
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