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From: Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>
To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>
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Subject: Re: kern/19482: Upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE to 4.0-STABLE causes RIP packets to be dropped 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:21:42 +0200."
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:21:42 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:

> Apparantly you have negative feeling when I use botched.  I don't
> associate it with anything negative nor have I received complaints about
> the usage of botched in the responses.

Trust me, the word "botched" in the English language is negative.

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:

  Botch \Botch\, n.; pl. {Botches}. [Same as Boss a stud. For
     senses 2 & 3 cf. D. botsen to beat, akin to E. beat.]
     1. A swelling on the skin; a large ulcerous affection; a
        boil; an eruptive disease. [Obs. or Dial.]
  
              Botches and blains must all his flesh emboss.
                                                    --Milton.
  
     2. A patch put on, or a part of a garment patched or mended
        in a clumsy manner.
  
     3. Work done in a bungling manner; a clumsy performance; a
        piece of work, or a place in work, marred in the doing, or
        not properly finished; a bungle.
[...]

     3. To put together unsuitably or unskillfully; to express or
        perform in a bungling manner; to spoil or mar, as by
        unskillful work.

> Sorry, but I am going to describe the stuff I do with the correct words
> in my opinion.

You're doing work that has to it a public relations aspect.  You have a
responsibility to be careful with your words.  Why are you being so
stubborn about this, anyway?

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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