From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Sun Mar 25 21:01:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD20F6CE15; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B37478367; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w2PL1Itv043801; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w2PL1HpJ043800; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201803252101.w2PL1HpJ043800@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r331510 - in head: share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/vmware/vmci sys/modules/vmware sys/modules/vmware/vmci In-Reply-To: To: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:01:17 -0700 (PDT) CC: Benjamin Kaduk , Pedro Giffuni , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Mark Peek , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:01:23 -0000 [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > On Mar 25, 2018 1:09 PM, "Benjamin Kaduk" wrote: > > I am surprised that no one has yet quoted the commit message from r325966 > when the first SPDX tags appear to have been added to base: > > We are gradually adopting the specification, noting > that the tags are considered only advisory and do not, in any way, > superceed or replace the license texts. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Here a SPDX tag is being used to stand in place, ie replace, the license text. > (There was also some internal discussion around the same time, which I of > course cannot quote here.) > > > > Right. For cases where both are present, the text controls. But when it's > just there alone, there is no ambiguity. There is ambiguity, as your replacing the license text with a tag in direct conflict with the documented status of SPDX tags. That is a HUGE ambiguity. Your also creating a small handful of files that seem to be in conflict with the projects standard MO for 25 years. Now, if you want to take this change to @developers as a proposal, and actually get legal advice on the aspects of this, I am all ears, but please do not just go making decisions that are contray to current practice without that. > It would certainly help with the slightly different wording issue if we did > this more often. I may do it to all my code in the tree. I'm careful about > this stuff, and i have at least three variations in the tree for no good > reason... > > Warner -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org