From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 24 06:54:03 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2018737B401 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 06:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA7543FE0 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 06:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: from blues.seekingfire.prv (blues.seekingfire.prv [192.168.23.211]) by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA94C7B6 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 07:54:00 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tillman@localhost) by blues.seekingfire.prv (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h3ODuqj01137 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 07:56:52 -0600 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 07:56:52 -0600 From: Tillman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030424075652.A20669@seekingfire.com> References: <41371.192.107.26.131.1051112914.squirrel@www.duncanyoung.com> <20030423233156.GL49736@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200304240930.15293.duncan.young@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200304240930.15293.duncan.young@pobox.com>; from duncan.young@pobox.com on Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 09:30:14AM +0100 X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers Subject: Re: Vinum in FreeBSD 4.x branch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:54:03 -0000 On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 09:30:14AM +0100, Duncan Young wrote: > Remember this is supposed to be in a corporate environment where "failure is > not an option". Getting vinum to set up root disks is "fiddly" and whomever > will support the box tomorrow, may not be as compentent as whomever sets it > up today. When things go wrong, the simplest setup is best. I have a different viewpoint: if this is supposed to be in a corporate environment, don't set up up the less competent folks for failure by having them inherit a system that they're not capable of supporting. This is a staffing issue, not a technical issue. -T -- Page 6: Unix is easy to use, but difficult to learn. - Harley Hahn, _The Unix Companion_