From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Dec 27 2:16:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from kuzhmaker.tec2000.org.il (f194.ifirewall.israsrv.net.il [192.117.193.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185A914FA9 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 02:16:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aeg@iname.com) Received: from lair ([192.168.1.2]) by kuzhmaker.tec2000.org.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA17486 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:18:49 +0200 (IST) (envelope-from aeg@iname.com) From: "Alexandr Gribenko" To: Subject: RE: FreeBSD presence in Israel? Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:28:03 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok let's add some more information on the topic. You are right Linux is *very* popular here, but it is in generous a great fact. You have to confirm that less FreeBSD in lammer hand, more stability and security threads for us ;o). IMHO as Linux is going to be a second windows98 (Quake3 for Linux or try Suse Linux with KDE (win98 interface compat ;o) - yaks!!!!!!! *BSD systems will took over server markert. (It is logical they have an *attitude* ;o) I, personally, use FreeBSD for a three years now here in Israel and try to push it as much as possible. 1)We used FreeBSD as a base system for an ISP company (2.2.1Release) named LuckyNET back in 1995-1998 right now the servers are sitting in Israserv's colocation. 2)We've built ISP in Ukraine named ukrnet (www.ukr.net) (think about Netvisions size) on Compaq servers running FreeBSD 2.2.7 (at building time) 3)I personally am running the school (AMAL K Haim) on the FreeBSD3.3 (yes I am downloading ISO of 3.4 right now ;o) with about 100 windowz worstations for firewalling, NATD, filtering, proxy, WWW, domains, and ofcourse Samba as an NTserver ;o) and DOS access for ghosting actually AGAINST the system (which is amalnet.k12 NT and once more NT) - you just have to know how to speak with da boss (money is the key) 4)Right now I with the help of my friends for a three months are moving FreeBSD and (preferrably) OpenBSD to be the shape of a server small and robust for a school classroom in the next year (Yes I am speaking about ministry of education here and we've got high enough for now) 5)We'are pushing filtering sollution for a school classroom named filternet (filternet.co.il when I will open it), which is (tshhh not talking to everyone right now) - OpenBSD based. right now installed in about 20 schools of hifa area.... So there are things to do and maybe the situation will change. what I can add, guys, WHERE ARE YOU???. We have to do something.... I personally would like to kill some Netvision for what they've done with BSD FTP mirror :o( Maybe create new freebsd list or what???? Gimme ideas!!!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message