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Date:      Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:13:22 -0500
From:      Paul Murphy <pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>
To:        Mark Pulford <mark@kyne.com.au>
Cc:        corecode@corecode.ath.cx, markp@FreeBSD.ORG, Yonatan@xpert.com, freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, will@csociety.org
Subject:   Re: ports/48132: new port: log keystrokes of remote X servers
Message-ID:  <20030215141322.17e81af9.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20030215194904.A30026@hamster.kyne.com.au>
References:  <200302141219.h1ECJwik058765@freefall.freebsd.org> <20030214103226.07ec814b.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> <20030214183226.75f1a8cc.corecode@corecode.ath.cx> <20030214205555.7b00f7be.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> <20030215194904.A30026@hamster.kyne.com.au>

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On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:49:04 +1030
Mark Pulford <mark@kyne.com.au> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 08:55:55PM -0500, Paul Murphy wrote:
> >  That's why I prefaced my comment with the question 'any
> >  _legitimate_
> > use?'. Port scanners, tcpdump, ethereal (and even rm) have uses for
> > debugging and security audits (I don't know about the others). I can
> > only think xspy would be used for sniffing passwords.
> 
> Perhaps someone might like to log the keys they type in a particular
> application so they can review them later?
> 

<quote>
Xxspy is used to monitor keypresses on *remote* X servers.
XIt takes advantage of an oversight in X Windows (R5 & R6) to find
Xout about keypresses *even in "secure mode"*.
</quote>[*highlights mine*]


> It seems unfair to reject a PR without some generally accepted reason
> when someone has made the effort to submit it. Since there are other

 I accept that.

> ports (all?) which can potentially be used for illegal purposes this
> doesn't seem to be a accepted reason. If it is generally accepted that
> some ports should be rejected due to their nature then it should be
> documented somewhere.
> 

 I also accept that.

> PRs need to be handled otherwise they will linger without resolution..
> 

 Closing them for the sake of closing them I don't accept.

 Yes, there should be a policy or at least some 'acceptable use'
statement. That is my point.


-- 
Cogeco ergo sum

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