From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 4 21:04:02 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA01942 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:04:02 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA01936 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:03:58 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA09298; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:07:41 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:07:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199504050407.WAA09298@trout.sri.MT.net> To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NOTICE: If you care, speak now! In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) From: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Wackerbarth writes: > >nice, but I doubt your timing is good. This seems to be too extensive > >for 2.1 at this time. > > 1) I've been working on this idea for some time. The changes to do a 90% > job are really pretty minor. The first 90% of the time you spend on a project take up 90% of the time. The other 10% of the project takes up the remaining 90% of the time. It's always the last 10% of the job that scares me the most. > 2) There are no changes to any of the code, just the makefiles and .mk files. > Debugging is very simple. -- Either everything compiles or it doesn't. > If you have a proper /usr/src and /usr/obj with the "make obj" links > installed, you would not notice any difference. That is the kind of extensive changes that shouldn't be made this late in the game. > 3) This is no more of a change than the changes to "install" that are being > so widely advocated. Huh? The install change affects *one* utility, but the changes you are advocating effect the entire build process, and from the sounds of it every Makefile. And, as a rebuttal, even though the install changes are to one tool, because of the significance of the tool those changes might not make it into the release. Nate