From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 06:08:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CCC16A4CE; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:08:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vtec.ipme.de (C3B3C641.dial.de.easynet.net [195.179.198.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFE743D45; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:08:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from volker@vwsoft.com) Received: from [192.168.16.24] (unknown [192.168.16.24]) by bellona.sz.vwsoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD025C3D; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:28:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <417748F2.3060506@vwsoft.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:28:18 +0200 From: Volker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040822 Thunderbird/0.7+ Mnenhy/0.6.0.101 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sobomax@FreeBSD.org References: <20041020170115.EDCD016A4EF@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20041020170115.EDCD016A4EF@hub.freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: What do people think about not installing a stripped,/kernel ?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:08:18 -0000 Maxim + all, > > I think that this is good idea which can be adapted for our 6-CURRENT as > well. Disk space is so damn cheap today.... > > -Maxim > <2ct> well, that's the same as the M$ people thought ten years back. "Size & price doesn't matter, so let's waste every Meg we could find." Doing it that way in every corner, you'll have a system which requires plenty of Gigs to install in a few years. A debug kernel by default would just be the beginning of a systematic waste. Why do you love BSD? Because it's different? Well, I love my beasty because it installs and runs in small to large size systems. And I love it because it's fast. If you blow up everything, your beasty will get slow, fat and ugly. Personally I would not care about a debugging kernel on my disk but the way poeple think (size doesn't matter, price doesn't matter) it's the very first step into the direction of blowing up everything - because size doesn't matter. Intel & Co will welcome you very friendly because going that way you'll always need the latest computer systems to run your beasty. Volker -- GPG/PGP fingerprint: FF93 13A1 2477 B631 E953 06DF 4C49 ADD9 E4BF 79B1