From owner-freebsd-bluetooth@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 1 17:05:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE9416A41F for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:05:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Maksim.Yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from mailgate1b.savvis.net (mailgate1b.savvis.net [216.91.182.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3A343D45 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 17:05:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Maksim.Yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate1b.savvis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC0E3BE73; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:05:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailgate1b.savvis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgate1b.savvis.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18765-01-21; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:05:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from out001.email.savvis.net (out001.apptix.savvis.net [216.91.32.44]) by mailgate1b.savvis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1603BE2A; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:05:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from s228130hz1ew171.apptix-01.savvis.net ([10.146.4.29]) by out001.email.savvis.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:05:13 -0500 Received: from [10.254.186.111] ([64.14.1.106]) by s228130hz1ew171.apptix-01.savvis.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:05:08 -0500 Message-ID: <42EE5643.4010804@savvis.net> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:05:07 -0700 From: Maksim Yevmenkin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050404) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loren M. Lang" References: <20050719031223.GA20371@alzatex.com> <42DC75F3.2000802@savvis.net> <20050729092655.GA9887@alzatex.com> <42EA4979.1000507@savvis.net> <20050730153429.GA10629@alzatex.com> In-Reply-To: <20050730153429.GA10629@alzatex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2005 17:05:08.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BB414C0:01C596BB] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at savvis.net Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset or Handsfree profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Using Bluetooth in FreeBSD environments List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 17:05:23 -0000 Loren, [...] >>>Both my cellphone and bt headset support both handsfree and headset so I >>>have a lot of combinations I can play with. >> >>well, are you aware that most bluetooth headsets are "dumb"? i.e. the >>headset can only be paired with one host and, after paired, will only >>accept connections from the paired host. what it means is that once >>paired with the cellphone, the headset can only be used with the >>cellphone. it is only possible to, say, transfer the call between the >>headset and the cellphone only. it is *not* possible to transfer the >>call to another audio gateway. > > Actually my motorola headset can remember up to eight paired devices, > but it will only try to connect to the most recently paired device, the > other 7 devices much start the connection themselves. I have > sucessfully paired my headset with my computer and cellphone both, with > the cellphone paired last so my headset will connect to it by default. > But, with my cellphone bt turned off, I was able to make linux access > the headset profile and play audio through it. this is great. i'm glad that at least some manufacturers think "out of the box" :) >>it would have been so nice if cellphones could also use bluetooth to >>connect to audio gateways. this way - as soon as i walk in the room with >>bluetooth audio gateway (such as asterix/skype/etc.) i could switch my >>phone to use it instead of gsm. now all my calls go via voip and not >>coming out of my minutes. i also wish headsets could "remember" more >>then one paired host. > > Actually, on windows I have successfully connected to the audio gateway > on my computer and heard the call through my speakers, though I had no > microphone to talk back with. I can connect to the headset/handfree > profile on my phone with either the computer or the motorola headset in > the middle of a call and get the audio routed automatically to my > computer/headset. well, it somewhat different scenario. your _phone_ is still connected to the gsm network and can route audio to either headset or windows pc. its great that your phone can do that. what i had in mind is that you have voip hardware/software running on the pc. so, you can make a voip calls from your pc, just like regular phone. the scenario i tried to describe is that the cellphone becomes a headset-like device, i.e. using bluetooth it connects to the pc and using headset-like protocol request a call (from pc via voip). now bluetooth headset could either be connected to the cellphone or you could just connect it directly to the pc, i.e. <--> IP <--> [voip pc] <-- bt --> [cellphone] <-- bt --> [headset] ^ | +-------- bt --> [another headset] so, the cellphone is acting like proxy giving access to your phone book, voice commands etc. but making all the calls via voip pc and not gsm. > Now as far as using voip, I don't know if my cellphone could do that. the phone does hot have to support voip. thanks, max