From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue May 12 14:58:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03462 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hyperreal.org (taz.hyperreal.org [209.133.83.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03395 for ; Tue, 12 May 1998 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@hyperreal.org) Received: (qmail 8828 invoked by uid 24); 12 May 1998 21:57:51 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980512150540.007cedd0@hyperreal.org> X-Sender: brian@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:05:40 -0700 To: Konrad Heuer , Ted Stein From: Brian Behlendorf Subject: Re: Let's Get FreeBSD Some Recognition Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:17 AM 5/12/98 +0200, Konrad Heuer wrote: >On Mon, 11 May 1998, Ted Stein wrote: > >> saw something like "We are both anti-Microsoft". I'd personally have to >> disagree there. I don't know about the rest of you, but I am certainly not >> against Microsoft. Above all, it does not further our efforts, as FreeBSD >> fans/advocates, to insult another OS, the most popular, nonetheless. Do us >> all a favor, focus on FreeBSD. We want to push FreeBSD because we LOVE >> FreeBSD, not because we HATE Microsoft. Leave them out of it. > >I agree. Me too. Let me also make the almost heretical claim that it would be in FreeBSD's interests, I believe, to start supporting some of Microsoft's API's. ActiveDirectory; NTFS; SMB. No, not NetBEUI :) Strategically speaking, if I had as my mission "get FreeBSD used in server systems in corporate America", I'd be doing everything I could to make it as easy as possible for someone running NT to switch to FreeBSD with little or no loss in functionality or interoperability. Once they've made the switch you can start talking them into using better API's and protocols :) Note that this is *not* the same as simply doing Win32 emulation; I think it'll be a long time before Win32 emulation is fully working (it may never be, simply due to MS changing standards) and can perform at the same speed as NT itself on similar hardware. Instead, find out what it takes to support NTFS as a native file system; to integrate Samba into the kernel; to build ActiveDirectory on top of an LDAP server. "But that's not the job of an OS vendor" you might say, "those are all applications!" Unfortunately MS has blurred the line between the two completely, so any approach has to be holistic. The really nice part about this strategy is that by and large the conversion won't require *any* new hardware, which is usually the most significant investment in any corporate MIS situation, save for the human expense. "Embrace and extend". Brian --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- pure chewing satisfaction brian@apache.org brian@hyperreal.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message