From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 7 15:19:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02925 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:19:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02860 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:19:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marko@uk.radan.com) Received: from [158.152.75.22] (helo=uk.radan.com) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 109dTo-0003Ue-00; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:19:09 +0000 Organisation: Radan Computational Ltd., Bath, UK. Phone: +44-1225-320320 Fax: +44-1225-320311 Received: from beavis.uk.radan.com (beavis [193.114.228.122]) by uk.radan.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA01830; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:18:36 GMT Received: from uk.radan.com (rasnt-1) by beavis.uk.radan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26618; Sun, 7 Feb 99 23:18:32 GMT Message-Id: <36BE1B62.FE31EF11@uk.radan.com> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:01:54 +0000 From: Mark Ovens X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Black Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape 4.5 base64 encoding problem References: <36BAD806.7E0487DC@Swansea.ac.uk> <36BAE6B9.4744F866@uk.radan.com> <36BAEB62.A4264159@Swansea.ac.uk> <36BAEEC0.546C0B05@uk.radan.com> <36BB024E.44EF4142@Swansea.ac.uk> <19990205202648.11897.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au> <36BB9B19.E697B2A@uk.radan.com> <19990207081436.5959.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Black wrote: > > > > Seriously, netscape is barely useful in its real role as a web > > > browser and is completely unsuited to taking on other tasks on > > > top of that. Why "struggle" with it when Unix systems have a > > > plethora of *good* mail user agents, all of which allow you to > > > use the editor of your choice to do the serious part of the job > > > while providing a range of configurable options to control the > > > way the mail is handled. > > > > I agree with you Greg, but can you offer a solution to this? > > > > Out of necessity my machine triple boots W95/NT4/FreeBSD 2.2.8. I'm > > looking for a system whereby I can have common mail boxes/folders > > (stored on the FAT partition) that can be read/updated by a mailer in > > all 3 OS's. Someone pointed me to a Windows version of pine, I tried it, > > and was very impressed but it has the disadvantage that it can't handle > > POP3 mail very well. It can only deal with it online. What I need is to > > be able to d/l my mail to a local Inbox (in any of the 3 OS's) and read > > it off-line. > > > > Netscape is the closest I've found to what I'm looking for, both Windows > > and Unix versions can read thesame mail files but the Unix version > > doesn't work too well with the Windows mail files (e.g. I can delete a > > message in FreeBSD, but in Windows it's still there :-( ). > > > > Any suggestions? > > Sure, but you may not like them. First, nobody has to use > Microsoft OSes. I choose not to use them, so I have no > suggestions that would accommodate the idea of running three > OSes on one machine. One of the many reasons that I don't use > MS OSes is because that company wants to control how I do things > and I prefer to manage that for myself -- easy with Unix. > > However, if there was some reason for me to have a box with W95 > and/or NT4 on it, I would also have at least one FreeBSD box, > since an old 486-33 with 8 MB of RAM and 130 MB of disk will do > that just fine and those things are being thrown away by people > who need supercomputers to run the latest rubbish from Redmond. > I would use the 486 as my Internet gateway/firewall/etc and I'd > hook it up to my home LAN, to which all my other actual working > machines would be connected. All of a sudden, it's trivial to > use Unix for everything that it should be used for ... > Unfortunately I _have_ to have the 3 OS's on one machine. I simply don't have house space for another :-(. I need NT for my work, 95 for the wife and kids (so they don't trash anything important) and FreeBSD because I want it. > The rest of this solution is self-evident, so I won't bore > everybody with it here. Yeah, I know. I've finally got the message ;-) I've installed mutt and am now trying to figure out how to setup sendmail. So from now on I'll do all my e-mail in FreeBSD, just have to put up with lots of re-boots. > > -- > Greg Black -- Trust the computer industry to shorten Year 2000 to Y2K. It was this thinking that caused the problem in the first place. FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~markov _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. 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