From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 06:26:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFB316A4CE for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:26:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from auk1.snu.ac.kr (auk1.snu.ac.kr [147.46.100.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197F643D49 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:26:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from spamrefuse@yahoo.com) Received: from [147.46.44.181] (spamrefuse@yahoo.com) by auk1.snu.ac.kr (Terrace Internet Messaging Server) with ESMTP id 2004102115:24:01:012368.15513.3051150256 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:24:01 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <4177568A.1040502@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:26:18 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041017 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20041020170115.EDCD016A4EF@hub.freebsd.org> <417748F2.3060506@vwsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <417748F2.3060506@vwsoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TERRACE-SPAMMARK: YES-__TRSYS_LV__3 (SR:-4.03) (SRN:SPAMROBOT) ----------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: What do people think about not installing a stripped,/kernel ?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 06:26:20 -0000 Volker wrote: > Maxim + all, > >> >> I think that this is good idea which can be adapted for our 6-CURRENT >> as well. Disk space is so damn cheap today.... >> >> -Maxim >> > > <2ct> > well, that's the same as the M$ people thought ten years back. "Size & > price doesn't matter, so let's waste every Meg we could find." > > Doing it that way in every corner, you'll have a system which requires > plenty of Gigs to install in a few years. A debug kernel by default > would just be the beginning of a systematic waste. > > Why do you love BSD? Because it's different? Well, I love my beasty > because it installs and runs in small to large size systems. And I love > it because it's fast. If you blow up everything, your beasty will get > slow, fat and ugly. > > Personally I would not care about a debugging kernel on my disk but the > way poeple think (size doesn't matter, price doesn't matter) it's the > very first step into the direction of blowing up everything - because > size doesn't matter. > > Intel & Co will welcome you very friendly because going that way you'll > always need the latest computer systems to run your beasty. > I have two Pentium1 PCs happily running 4-Stable. I also hope my two little Pentium1 PCs, with small harddisks and minimal RAM will be able to cope with future designs of FreeBSD. It's the beauty of having a state-of-the-art OS on such an old system, whereas for my M$ companions the PCs barely can run Windows 98 !! R.